Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 385659)

I've just replied to a post of yours which you've since removed from this thread and that changes the context of what I'd written entirely. How the thread now reads is that I mention you before you've even posted! Please don't do that, or it may undermine my confidence in moderators.....;)

Originally Posted by klem (Post 385466)

The goal is to obtain clear information from the developers and to provide the opportunity to ask or to see clear questions specifically on the update information and find the devs answers.

There are no sinister intentions here. Don't confuse suppressive censorship with trying to keep important Threads meaningful, on topic and free of Trolls.

I am a forum user just like you but I get sick of wading through a pile of vitriol and often childish arguments when what I want from an update thread is to easily find the information it gives and to see relevant questions and answers. There are plenty of threads where people can argue themselves blue in the face and hurl insults at eachother if they want.

I think you must see that many posts in the last update thread were just a battle of personalised vitriol and repeated complaints that we've all seen so many times before and that do not specifically reference the update information. Its not that some of the complaints aren't valid and I understand that more recent purchasers of CoD will want to come here and register their point of view but that isn't what the update threads are for. Do we really have to wade through all of that every time to find the useful information? My suggestion is simply that certain Threads be given a special status that keeps them useful.

As for members that get a ban, some of them seem to enjoy only being deliberately and boringly provocative on the same old subjects, again and again and again and again, questions that have already been answered, again and again and again. It reduces them to Trolls and personally I'm glad the moderators are taking a stronger line. I come here to find useful information and help if I can, not to wade through a pile of nonsense that wouldn't be tolerated in a kids classroom.

Originally Posted by Ribbs67 (Post 385854)

Sorry 6BL Birddog.... That im requsting this right after your post.. but while were on the topic of keeping the update thread clean, I wish we could get rid of all the "quoted" + 1... And +100000 posts also. I find them very redundant, and not needed. I feel like they clog up the thread just as much as the Trolling thats going on.

Originally Posted by klem (Post 385466)

The goal is to obtain clear information from the developers and to provide the opportunity to ask or to see clear questions specifically on the update information and find the devs answers.

There are no sinister intentions here. Don't confuse suppressive censorship with trying to keep important Threads meaningful, on topic and free of Trolls.

I am a forum user just like you but I get sick of wading through a pile of vitriol and often childish arguments when what I want from an update thread is to easily find the information it gives and to see relevant questions and answers. There are plenty of threads where people can argue themselves blue in the face and hurl insults at eachother if they want.

I think you must see that many posts in the last update thread were just a battle of personalised vitriol and repeated complaints that we've all seen so many times before and that do not specifically reference the update information. Its not that some of the complaints aren't valid and I understand that more recent purchasers of CoD will want to come here and register their point of view but that isn't what the update threads are for. Do we really have to wade through all of that every time to find the useful information? My suggestion is simply that certain Threads be given a special status that keeps them useful.

As for members that get a ban, some of them seem to enjoy only being deliberately and boringly provocative on the same old subjects, again and again and again and again, questions that have already been answered, again and again and again. It reduces them to Trolls and personally I'm glad the moderators are taking a stronger line. I come here to find useful information and help if I can, not to wade through a pile of nonsense that wouldn't be tolerated in a kids classroom.

Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 385872)

I have been active member on these boards for over 5 years, most of the time as a lone moderator. I've learned to respect the members and opinions. Yes we have errant posters, which will always be the case.

This thread created by you is evidence of moderator tolerance. The forums rules prohibit criticism of moderators. Our moderators know that all update threads eventually become a venue for negative posters. Go back and review some of them. Moderators would prefer negative posters be contained on that thread, than extend their transgression range into the rest of the forums.

I respect the fact you are a veteran poster here and you are being accorded some slack. Don't tell us how to moderate or make accusations. This is the busiest IL2 and COD forums on the internet. We have an excellent team of experienced, intelligent and tolerant moderators.

The tone of your posting indicates your frustration. I suggest you might want to think to spend time on another forums where you will be more comfortable. Drop back in every now and then to get the latest COD news.