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kestrel79 12-26-2011 01:11 PM

I hope to see more of the "crap planes" in BoM. I like flying the non popular planes, even if their performance isn't the greatest.

Maybe we could get some planes in BoM that would transfer over to CloD as well, kill 2 birds with one stone.

I'm still hoping for some sort of water plane for rescue missions, or a transport plane for resupply missions. Air Warrior on AOL had this feature in 1996 on their online servers and I loved flying the C-47 below radar and resupplying bases or dropping paratroopers to capture a base.

addman 12-26-2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kestrel79 (Post 373489)
I hope to see more of the "crap planes" in BoM. I like flying the non popular planes, even if their performance isn't the greatest.

Maybe we could get some planes in BoM that would transfer over to CloD as well, kill 2 birds with one stone.

I'm still hoping for some sort of water plane for rescue missions, or a transport plane for resupply missions. Air Warrior on AOL had this feature in 1996 on their online servers and I loved flying the C-47 below radar and resupplying bases or dropping paratroopers to capture a base.

+1 to the crap planes. The Polikarpov-Po2 for example, crap plane but important for night terror duties and recon, I think they used it through the whole war or something. We have quite a few floatplanes in CloD to bad the devs have announced that there will be no more flyables in CloD (except the Su.26?).

ElAurens 12-26-2011 04:38 PM

The North Koreans used the P0 2 during the Korean War too...

;)

addman 12-26-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 373556)
The North Koreans used the P0 2 during the Korean War too...

;)

Perfect! Make it for BoM and keep it for the Korean expansion whenever that will be released!

Ploughman 12-26-2011 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by addman (Post 373557)
Perfect! Make it for BoM and keep it for the Korean expansion whenever that will be released!

They made it for the Korean Expansion.





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Tavingon 12-26-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by addman (Post 373493)
+1 to the crap planes. The Polikarpov-Po2 for example, crap plane but important for night terror duties and recon, I think they used it through the whole war or something. We have quite a few floatplanes in CloD to bad the devs have announced that there will be no more flyables in CloD (except the Su.26?).

Im all for 'crap' planes.. more fun online?!
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RickRuski 12-26-2011 11:41 PM

Chivas is correct, the Fw190 wasn't involved in the BoB. It didn't have an operational flight until August 1941 over France. Bob as recognised by the Brits as being from 10th July---31st October 1940, although Germany considered BoB didn't finish until they attacked Russia.

fruitbat 12-26-2011 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 28_Condor (Post 373060)
190A2 enter in service around may 1941, but I am not sure if in sufficient numbers in that front...

Late Aug 1942 1JG 51 became the first unit to re-equip to FW 190 on the eastern front, with A3's.

That December JG54 re equipped to Fw190's as well.

ATAG_MajorBorris 01-03-2012 05:57 PM

Hs 123
 
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Originally Posted by kendo65 (Post 373131)
Wikipedia says (?) that the Luftwaffe was only operating 22 HS 123s at the start of Operation Barbarossa.

Maybe not really worth the trouble of representing in the game?

It sounds like this was the only operational ground attack group and the HS 123 was all they had at first.

From Wikipedia (can I post this?)...

World War II (Eastern Front)At the start of Operation Barbarossa, the single Gruppe of the Luftwaffe that was dedicated to ground support was II.(Schl)/LG 2, operating 22 Hs 123s (along 38 Bf 109Es).[4] In service use on the Eastern Front, the remaining aircraft had been field-modified with the main wheel spats removed, additional armour and extra equipment fitted as well as mounting extra machine guns and even cannons in under-wing housings.

Some volunteers of Escuadrilla Azul (15 Spanische Staffel/VIII. Fliegerkorps) of JG-27 detached in Luftflotte 2 managed Hs 123s in collaboration of II.(Schl.)/LG 2 units for ground strikes along Bf 109E-7/B fighter-bombers during 1941-42 period.

During the initial drive, the unit participated in action along the central and northern parts of the front, including a brief time in support of the fighting around Leningrad, and participating in the battles for Bryansk and Vyazma. The first weeks revealed problems associated with using the Bf 109E which was plagued by undercarriage and engine problems in the fighter-bomber role. Its liquid-cooled inline engine was also more vulnerable to small arms fire than the Hs 123's radial.

The winter brought hardship to all German forces in Russia, and the pilots in the open cockpits of the Henschels suffered accordingly. Despite this, they took part in the Battle of Moscow. In January, the unit was re-designated as the first dedicated ground attack wing (in German Schlachtgeschwader 1, SchlG 1). The Hs 123 became a part of 7./SchlG 1.

This "new" unit participated in operations in Crimea in May 1942, after which it operated on the southern sector for some time, participating in the Second Battle of Kharkov and going on to take part in the Battle of Stalingrad. In the meantime, the small number of operational Hs 123 continued to slowly dwindle. Aircraft had been salvaged from training schools and even derelict dumps all over Germany to replace losses.[2] The aircraft that had supposedly replaced the Hs 123, the Ju 87, also started to be assigned to ground support units, leaving tactical bombing to newer aircraft.

The greatest tribute to the Hs 123 usefulness came in January 1943 when Generaloberst Wolfram von Richthofen, then commander-in-chief of Luftflotte 4, asked whether production of the Hs 123 could be restarted because the Hs 123 performed well in a theater where mud, snow, rain and ice took a heavy toll on the serviceability of more advanced aircraft. However, the Henschel factory had already dismantled all tools and jigs in 1940.[2]

After taking part in the Battle of Kursk, SG 1 returned to Crimea, and there during late spring 1944, they finally gave up the aircraft that had served all over Europe from Spain to Leningrad. 7./SG 1 traded its last Hs 123s in mid-1944, for Ju 87s, a type that was to have replaced it back in 1937.

By 1945, the Hs 123s that remained serviceable were reassigned to secondary duties such as supply dropping and glider towing.[5]

pencon 01-06-2012 03:43 PM

bring on the fw190 ,lets make this sim interesting (never was a spitfire fan )


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