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Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 311711)

@Bliss - I want this sim to succeed...I mean I wouldnt be so frustrated (because of bad performance on my modern rig) that I dont care. I would just trash it. But everything I tried (with all my HW and SW knowledge and years of experience with tweaking wins and games) didnt help. Im still having a bad performance. Its a bit better with textures set to med but then the game is much uglier. And still Im loosing sound online; trees are not there in fact. FM is great (DM better than in ROF) but I dont like how the game looks (except cockpits which are great looking). It looks like a vivid cartoon. And there are occasional stutters too. Builidings and trees are causing problems fps wise. So more or less its unplayable for me in current state. Thats where my frustration comes from.
I really hope one day this sim will be optimised and with improved sounds and landscape, with working trees (not the ghost trees we have now). I cant call this a serious top sim with ghost trees and bad/not working sounds. I know the sim market is small, and small teams are working on top sims. But this is not a finished product, in fact it wasnt even a beta when it was released (IMHO). Thats not a way your getting new/old customers BACK. Thats a worst "marketing".
Hope things will look better in the future.

Agree.

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Originally Posted by Opitz (Post 311709)

It is all as I predicted right in the beginning, and got banned for it few times. I told everyone, nobody ever will be able to repair it, IF they will not rewrite it from the scratch! The sounds is, as Luthier is saying, such case...

So I see their real plan - just to sell it in US to the rest of their customer base, which trusted them to provide the patch for the most obvious bugs in this "game". Trust was again broken. Not for the first time, but believe me, nobody cares, because payment transaction is done, and you'll never see your money back. And you have to be patient, as a member of IL2 community, and don't ask unpleasant question. And beware to demand anything!!
They will give you IL2 sturmovik after couple of months, with some bugs corrections, but the engine will be same, there will be still missing any reasonable content. They are following same model as with old IL2... selling addons or "patches"...
Get it or leave. This is their message. I left. I am here just to observe and learn how such marketing strategy is complete failure.

Amen, brother! This is not a pleasant prophecy, but unfortunately a VERY reasonable one.

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Originally Posted by Opitz (Post 311638)

"That means that the team is growing, we are hiring, and we’re not going anywhere."

Is it some kind of threat?

In your mind it is, to most other people it means that MG will continue on the game regardless of the current state and that they even hire new employees like the one working on the new sound right now.

Is this, The suckuper thread :)

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Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 311711)

Tvrdi,

I hear exactly what you are saying and agree 100% about things needing fixed and optimized. But I can also tell you that you can play the sim 100% stutter free if you find the right eye candy to shut off.

Before I go on, my system specs i7 990x @ 4.5 | 2 x 580 GTX 3gb | 12 gigs DDR3 @ 1600 | XFI | 30" monitor @ 2560 x 1600

I can play the game maxed out, but will have stuttering and FPS that goes anywhere from 20-60 (could drop into the single digits with smoke effects) while flying online. To alleviate this I tried 1920x1200. Help, but still had occasional micro stutters. I finally had to go down to 1650x1050 and set land textures to medium to eliminate the micro stutter (not spawn stutter) and to stay above 50FPS (unless smoke) all the time.

I even bought as SSD thinking it might help with loading the massive amounts of textures. So I put steam/IL2COD on the SSD (a vertex III 6gbps) and reinstall the game. When I fired it up I had texture corruption. Then when I played online, I lost sound within 5 minutes. So this time I completely deleted everything from steam and the documents folder (1cSoft) and made sure to completely uninstall everything. So on reinstall #2 on the SSD, I had the same exact problem.

Long story short, the only way I fixed my game (no sound bug) was going back and installing both the documents folder and steam on the same hard drive win7 was on. I went back and deleted every single registry entry for IL2COD and, now on my 3rd install, am finally back to where I started.

This type of stuff makes me wonder how many people are experiencing these same types of problems just by a simple reinstall of the game? Not only did changing it over to a different drive ruin both my sound and textures, it also forced me to spend an hour in the registry just to be sure I was actually at the same point I was before I even installed the game.

Another thing is if you want it to play good, you have to be willing to sacrifice eye candy and resolution. I have, essentially, the best all around CPU currently made and 2 of the highest performing GFX cards on the market and I had to notch down 2x my native resolution and turn textures down to be fluent.

I can also tell you, from when I was deployed in the middle east, that I could play the game very smoothly on a laptop with going hardcore on lowering quality settings. Should I have to? Probably not, but that's the way it is. So you can get rid of your microstutters. IMO, you can even get rid of the sound bug like I did, but it'll take quality hit to do it. And depending on if you've ever reinstalled the game somewhere else, you might even have to get into the registry as well. Because, here I am with a $500 SSD that I can't even put the one game on I wanted to regardless of what I do.

But I do not have stutters, and even at 1650x1050 my game looks and plays fantastic both online and off.

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Originally Posted by Doc_uk (Post 311719)

Is this, The suckuper thread :)

http://rlv.zcache.com/brown_nose_tsh...23q6lb_400.jpg

Funniest thread ever!

I run really good the "unfixable sim" stated by Optiz, the genious in computer sim design...

I like a lot Luthier Way: sarcasm with fools!

Some even now don't understand how amazing is this engine... why lose time talking to this kind of stupid person?

+1 to Luthier. Some in this forum don't deserve regular updates.

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Originally Posted by SYN_Bliss (Post 311720)

Dude i take my hat of to yer...If i had that rig and had to go through what you've gone through to then only play it on what i class as Med settings id be going...well i wouldn't be a happy chappy

Bliss, first you shouldn't have to go all through that to get COD to run well, its badly optimized and coded.
with your hardware you shouldnt have to jump through hoops, textures set to medium with 2x 580 3gb?? !!!
that my friend takes the *beep*

So your playing online with a game that looks like this in 2011 with your kit? and your happy with this...

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/8...7201124045.jpg
By furbs9999 at 2011-07-20

when the landscape from a good IL2 map looks like this...

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2576/landscape2.png
By furbs9999 at 2011-01-24