Hahaha, I've never quite understood why people are afraid of the E-4. It's the same flight model as the E-3 except with automatic pitch. It actually doesn't climb as well due to the automatic prop.

Allied pilots think they need the Spit 2a which completely outperforms the 109 in every aspect just to be on a "level playing field"?

I hate this community sometimes.

Well its going to be a mess until they get the FMs closer to where they should be. Meantime, having Spit Is underperforming more than the 109s underperform leaves the RAF with nothing that approaches a sensible situation and they always have one arm tied behind their back. The Rotol Hurri doesn't quite make up for it due to its poorer handling. Having a handful of Spit IIa thrown in (just try to get your hands on one!) goes some way to making us feel a little better, it's just unfortunate for the 109s that run into them, like its unfortunate for the Spit Is that run into the E3/E4.

Roll on the FM patch - whenever that will be.

"...there is no RAF aircraft that can compete with the E4..."
are you serious?you are joking right?
we all know that all the planes in clod are not modeled correctly.there is plenty of stuff to do for devs regarding the FMs.
all planes are underperforming except the spit IIa.so if there is a uber plane, than its obviously the spitIIa.
besides the E4 is nothing better than the E1 or E3 except the Minengeschoss.it has the same performance as the other variants.the only difference is the auto-prop pitch....which in my view is not an advantage but actually a disadvantage as i can handle it manually better than the auto pitch is capable of.

while i consider myself a pretty good online-player, i would never call myself ace-of-aces, but im still pretty successfull.but you know why?its because people who are complaining that the bfs are uber planes, are constantly flying at altitudes below 3k.
so on atag server, i have shot several spit IIas, and not one managed to shoot me yet.but only because they are digging the weeds.
i had some really intensive fights at 5k with good pilots in hurris.and they are really dangerous if they know what to do.so if one would sit in a spitIIa,handle the aircraft correctly and use altitude, than even the most experienced bf pilots wouldnt have a realistical chance to win the fight(1vs1).

"Roll on the FM patch-whenever that will be"
hell yeah,the sooner the better and please as realistic as possible.

Thank you Klem, you said it far better than I did.

Guys, I don't want to start anything, really I don't. However, until the FMs are better sorted, trying to make any type of historical mission is rather pointless, don't you think?

I'm just a very frustrated RAF pilot at this point. From my seat, there is no Mk. I RAF aircraft that is remotely competitive with any of the E series birds, with the exception of the Rotol Hurricane at very low levels.

Those of you who fly E models all the time should take ATAG_Bliss's suggestion to fly a Mk. I RAF aircraft for a month. Then you would see where we are at.

I'm going to be taking a break from the forums for a while as it is pointless to discuss anything till the FMs and overall game performance are better sorted.

Have a Merry Christmas all, see you in the New Year.

This discussion is so funny, it's like everybody's talking to themselves and nobody's listening to each other, great show! keep it up!

I can buy that... It seems reasonable enough. Never understood why the hell red people are complaining against E4's... The most porked fighter in the sim is the Spit Ia.

Total necro-post but: Not at all, we're pissed off with the inconsistent nature of the communication made to us so far. Hopefully now that BlackSix is here the situation can be rectified in some way, but I doubt that it will be if he is not allowed to discuss 90% of what's going on like it seems so far. I don't mind wasting £whateveritwas on a buggy sim, but I'd rather not be told it would be fixed and waste loads of time waiting for patches or buying hardware to try and improve the performance of the sim if they never bother to get round to any of the other glaring issues in the next few months. I mean, surely the memory leak was at least worth a hotfix since we've been waiting since mid-October.

Nice to see that the thread has now otherwise degenerated into the standard red vs. blue flamefest. :-P

Here's an idea for you. Find something else to do and stop wasting your time. Play some IL2/46. Play some RoF. Go outside.

OF COURSE! I never do any the things you suggest in all the rest of the time that these few two minute posts every two weeks are not taking up! My huuuuge post count over the last few months SURELY indicates that I am a complete basement dweller. Thank you so much for enlightening me! :rolleyes:


How about you allow me to have an opinion about the communication this developer has with its customers without being told that I'm a sad bastard with no life for said opinion being negative?

I'm just trying to help. If you find something else to do you won't be so upset about a GAME. I'm playing lots of RoF while I wait, and I'm not upset about CoD at all. Give it a try.