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Stipe 02-17-2011 02:29 AM

Your quote button isn't working correctly.:-P
If it doesn't work in the game the same as track ir it's not really an alternative. If you prove, that it will work in COD, well I will use it and I'll buy you a bear for finding a cheaper solution for me.

Wolf_Rider 02-17-2011 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MadBlaster (Post 225067)


@Everyone
6dof for your mouse is irrelevant. The mouse and the head have to be independent.


No, it isn't irrelevent and there only has to be an alternative. The calls have only ever been "we want 6DoF access". The advices in response have always been, come up with a method of accessing the 6DoF, but do it without violating anyone elses' copyrights


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Originally Posted by MadBlaster (Post 225067)

You can't sit in the back of a stuka, fly the plane, move your head around and shoot bandit on your six. You need the mouse to aim the gun while you move your head. Freetrack allows you to do this. Mouseylook, who the hell knows or cares except W-R.


left mouse click for fire weapon?

Novotny 02-17-2011 02:35 AM

Damnit, I'm starting to get into this.

You say that NP encypted their own software? And that's bad? I do hope you are posting from a Linux set-up. And if you are, are you using a CPU from either AMD or Intel? YOU TOTAL BASTARD.

And if not, have you hand-crafted the motherboard? And the GPU? Or the RAM? Is it all totally open source?

Am I making any sort of point?

Stipe 02-17-2011 02:40 AM

You can't encrypt something that you don't have a patent for it. Or am I crazy? I really don't know, that's why I'm asking.
That's like saying: oh, let's say Nintendo made the first video game. Are they the only one allowed to make video games?
NP weren't the first one that made HT. You can't take something, make it better, have no patent and say, this is all mine.
Who made the first wheel? How come we have so many different company's making wheels? They all steal by that logic.
Maybe they bought the patent?

vicinity 02-17-2011 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Novotny (Post 225082)
You say that NP encypted their own software? And that's bad?

It is for the people who bought trackir 1 & 2 and who now forced to upgrade and buy a new version if they want to get headtracking in the new games with encryption.

Novotny 02-17-2011 02:43 AM

I bought a ford escort in 1987. Why can't I have their latest release for free?

And Stipe - they only protected their code, not the concept.

Aren't you guys starting to get it?

Wolf_Rider 02-17-2011 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stipe (Post 225085)

You can't encrypt something that you don't have a patent for it. Or am I crazy? I really don't know, that's why I'm asking.

To be honest there is I feel some may have a confusion between copyright and patent and as mentioned earlier, they are two seperate entities.





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Originally Posted by vicinity (Post 225086)

It is for the people who bought trackir 1 & 2 and who now forced to upgrade and buy a new version if they want to get headtracking in the new games with encryption.

Vicinity, AGP died out, gameport died out, floppy drives are close to extinction and so is the P2 connection for mice and keyboards... Microsoft don't offer programming support for their FFB joystick in the (at least) last two operating system releases. where is the out cry there?

Stipe 02-17-2011 02:50 AM

Fair point. So all headtracking solutions, not just freetrack used NP code? Did you see the list NP feels that they are stealing from them? Even the ones that were around before NP? So, did NP steal from someone else in the past?

Novotny 02-17-2011 02:50 AM

I just hope we're starting to get through to these chaps. I am totally for consumer rights, but they seem to have some really weird idea about what they're entitled to.

Wolf_Rider 02-17-2011 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Stipe (Post 225092)

Fair point. So all headtracking solutions, not just freetrack used NP code? Did you see the list NP feels that they are stealing to them? Even the ones that were around before NP? So, did NP steal from someone else in the past?

could you present the list you're refering to, please Stipe?


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