For any unaligned, unconvinced, or open minded people who may still be reading this thread and trying to make sense of the competing claims here is a useful website that gives the current scientific position.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/

Answers to some claims made in this thread:

Positives and negatives of global warming
http://www.skepticalscience.com/glob...termediate.htm

Is there a scientific consensus on global warming?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/glob...-consensus.htm

What do the 'Climategate' hacked CRU emails tell us?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Clim...ils-hacked.htm

Is CO2 a pollutant?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-pollutant.htm

Do volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/volc...termediate.htm

Solar activity & climate: is the sun causing global warming?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/sola...al-warming.htm

What does past climate change tell us about global warming?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/clim...arm-period.htm

Global cooling - Is global warming still happening?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/glob...termediate.htm

Answers to 173 questions/claims on climate
http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

maybe people should just google themselves instead of the spin doctor approach pointing them to a certain website with a certain agenda. I see one of my fellow alma mater is a contributor. Go UC Davis Aggies! Biggest joke of a school ever.

Don't try to confuse them with facts, kendo65, their mind is made up...

There have been a few links to climate-skeptic sites. Thought I'd provide some balance.

The 'certain agenda' you refer to is a fairly clear and balanced summary of the current scientific consensus. One of the problems in all this is that the ordinary man in the street sees an array of competing voices making what seem like sound arguments on either side of the issue and has no way of deciding for himself who is right. That site gives the 'consensus position'.

Are there opposing voices? Yes, but they're in the minority, though the casual observer wouldn't necessarily know that.

Sure. 'consensus opinion', ordinary man in the street...'no way of deciding for himself who is right'. so go to 'this' website because 'this' website will get your head straight. got it. I'm not knocking your opinion. But what you wrote and did by linking to a single "skeptical" website is spin in every sense of the word. I guess I shouldn't worry about it. The ordinary man has figured it out by now. He is pretty smart guy.;)

I count myself as one of the 'ordinary men in the street'. The vast majority of us don't have the technical training or knowledge to examine the complex evidence for ourselves and make a judgement. So what we get is an array of experts with conflicting opinions and no way of deciding who is right.

That site is pretty balanced and gives a good summary of the mainstream scientific position. It tries to explain why certain skeptical arguments are wrong or misleading.

I don't expect it will sway those who are committed to their point of view, but I wanted to show that there are sound arguments against many of the viewpoints expressed in this thread.

Anyway, Andy has been banned. I've no intention of staying around trying to fill the 'resident leftie punchbag' role.

:rolleyes: Go post on another forum,please.

Best Regards,
MB_Moron.

It doesn't matter what these sceptics and luddites think. What is happening is that the USA now knows how much business is involved in making renewable energy products and how they can get off middle eastern oil. The USA invests more in it than any other country, it makes business sense.

Okay, that is fine. You have a right to your opinion.

Well Western Australia's doing it's best to stop global warming! We've started granting mining permits for Uranium.

It's been banned up until now. Which was a pitty because my Dad went off prospecting for Uranium in the 60's, Hey I could have been rich!! :(

I think our market will be China and India! Remember the Atom is your friend!!!

Whats your Government doing? ;)