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-   -   Friday Update, January 27, 2012 (http://forum.fulqrumpublishing.com/showthread.php?t=29368)

Kubiszko 01-29-2012 04:57 PM
if you think that the drawing of money from me to you wrong.
after years of anguish on I-16 vs. bf-109 f4 I'm sick of everything.
you can not afford a particular supplement?

you are lightly!!!

BIG LOL

jctrnacty 01-29-2012 06:19 PM
Thanks for update.

ALthough CLOD is not perfect and we all know it , i hope it will be fixed in future just like ROF and ARMA 2 and all other sophisticated games software with huge abilities was.

I believe that all missing features like dynamic weather and ground traffic will be added to CLOD with upcoming updates and one day we will have a WW2 No. 1 sim for another 10 years just like original IL2 was.

Now i have a lot of other sims to play (A-10, ROF, SH5, Arma 2) until CLOD is fixed.

Good luck to whole team and make the sim that you and Oleg always wanted to make. You´ll get my money despite the fiasco with CLOD release. I know this genre is dying so i hope you´ll continue to support us with the best WW2 sim.

hc_wolf 01-29-2012 10:56 PM
Well said with the Update and how things progress. I will not be posting here any more till the new Patch is out. Keep up the Great work.

My mind is at rest :D

BYEEEE!

Pluto 01-30-2012 07:26 AM
... nice posting ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 385022)
Well, I admit this is a better communication "package" compared to the last one I gave you my feedback upon (the infamous "balalaika" youtube video...).

Still, you are becoming masters in disguise... (I avoid using the term masters of deception out of politness).
I had to read the text twice to understand. Worthy of SunZu's teachings, brilliantly worded, it earns my respect!
Cudos to your effort!

Now that I have given you credit for the worthwhile effort, please allow me to tell you some things which I appreciated less:
Pretty pictures - little content.
You left us with a memory leak that grows to 4Gb RAM before crashing, obliging us to restart the game after every flight, for weeks now.
Careful reading of your statements makes me deduct that you have not being able to trace the cause of the memory leak much less provide a fix for it.
More concerning, no comment any more about the complete graphics model overhaul (which was the cause for not creating an intermediary patch).
Last but not least, no comments on the current flight model bugs in terms of performance of existing airplanes (e.g. SpitII) and funtionality of airplanes (e.g. JU-88 not working gyros).
Not posting a single date/ timeframe for completion of tasks (any task!) makes me speechless.

No need to worry gentlemen, I will buy your next sequel, and the one after that.

What frustrates me is that I am 46years old, have four university degrees (= my brain is working) but sometimes I feel I am reading communication destined to 12 year olds... :(

~S~
.... I like it, well written and true!

I gave up on that subject, but you are right!

Good that there are some other nice games to play while waiting for this one to get fixed.
:)

Sutts 01-30-2012 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Pluto (Post 386213)
.... I like it, well written and true!

I gave up on that subject, but you are right!

Good that there are some other nice games to play while waiting for this one to get fixed.
:)
I know English is a second language to many on this forum so I'll cut you some slack but for the second time I must correct this misleading statement.....


Luthier did address the graphics overhaul quite clearly.....

"Graphics are virtually complete. Almost all of the newly introduced bugs are squashed. There are lots of other improvements."

"The engine still has some problems".

Which bit of that doesn't cover the graphics overhaul?

In terms of the memory leak, it frustrates me too but Luthier explained a long while back that the leak was in part of the old graphics code which was being replaced. It simply didn't make sense to spend hours trying to fix the old code when the new code was close to completion and would fix the issue.

I'm sure there will be a few teething troubles but I bet the graphics rewrite will be worth the wait.

Tvrdi 01-30-2012 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sutts (Post 386216)
when the new code was (is?) close to completion.....
You know something we dont know?

Nope?

Then dont give us false hopes...


TBH, most of us who "whine" really loves old IL2 and for CLOD we had hopes it will be even better. Most of us ACTUALLY PLAY CLOD unlike some die hard fanboys on this board. Last night ACE OF ACES was playin ROF all night. LOL I never saw him in any of the CLOD servers...What do you think why ppl complain? They care...and they have the right to complain..because of their voice this game is gettin fixed (is it?)....Its really pitty 1C doesnt recruit open beta testers...I would glidely join...

CLOD as it is,...is playable (for us with stronger rigs) but it has serious performance issues (like I said earlier, mostly when effects are near, or more planes etc.) and it would be ME who will "mourn" if they dont succeed in optimising the sim....

Sutts 01-30-2012 10:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 386225)
You know something we dont know?

Nope?

Then dont give us false hopes...

TBH, most of us who "whine" really loves old IL2 and for CLOD we had hopes it will be even better. Most of us ACTUALLY PLAY CLOD unlike some die hard fanboys on this board. Last night ACE OF ACES was playin ROF all night. LOL I never saw him in any of the CLOD servers...What do you think wht ppl complain? They care...and they have the right to complain..because of their voice this game is gettin fixed (is it?)....Its really pitty 1C doesnt recruit open beta testers...I would glidely join...

CLOD as it is,...is playable (for us with stronger rigs) but it has serious performance issues (like I said earlier, mostly when effects are near, or more planes etc.) and it would be ME who will "mourn" if they dont succeed in optimising the sim....
If Luthier says "Graphics are virtually complete" then I believe him. My profession is software development so I'm aware how unforseen problems can completely throw a release schedule though. Just keeping my fingers crossed this time.

I'm really glad to hear you can see the potential and want the product to suceed Tvrdi. Some of your posts give the opposite impression but I guess that's just frustration getting the better of you sometimes. I've let my disappointments show in the past too.

I don't mind complaints as long as they don't spread inaccurate information that may hurt the product or constantly repeat a fact that everyone is aware of and the devs are working hard to fix.

Let's just hope they nail it with the next patch.

Tvrdi 01-30-2012 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sutts (Post 386228)
If Luthier says "Graphics are virtually complete" then I believe him. My profession is software development so I'm aware how unforseen problems can completely throw a release schedule though.....
Well, we will se what will be..when it will be finished...I know the complete engine overhaull is gigantic task...but they could do it before release..this way they would avoid all the fuzz.....I dont mind waiting for products to be complete (before I buy them ehh)....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sutts (Post 386228)
I'm really glad to hear you can see the potential and want the product to suceed Tvrdi. Some of your posts give the opposite impression but I guess that's just frustration getting the better of you sometimes. I've let my disappointments show in the past too.
The bigger the fan you are, or the bigger the expectations you have - the bigger is the frustration....its so simple...some ppl just dont want to admit...but when ppl like AOA "pops in" its hard to be cool :-)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sutts (Post 386228)
Let's just hope they nail it with the next patch.
Fingers crossed. Its in our own interest.

Sutts 01-30-2012 10:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 386238)
Well, we will se what will be..when it will be finished...I know the complete engine overhaull is gigantic task...but they could do it before release..this way they would avoid all the fuzz.....I dont mind waiting for products to be complete (before I buy them ehh)....


The bigger the fan you are, or the bigger the expectations you have - the bigger is the frustration....its so simple...some ppl just dont want to admit...but when ppl like AOA "pops in" its hard to be cool :-)



Fingers crossed. Its in our own interest.

Agreed.

bongodriver 01-30-2012 10:47 AM
Quote:
Well, we will se what will be..when it will be finished...I know the complete engine overhaull is gigantic task...but they could do it before release..this way they would avoid all the fuzz.....I dont mind waiting for products to be complete (before I buy them ehh)....

Before I get condemned as a 'fanboi', I would just like to say that IMHO it is incoceivable that anyone would release a game in the state COD was in 'knowing' it was going to be such a problem, yes they could have expected a certain level of issues (nobody can deny it was pushed out the door early) but saying they could have fixed the problem before they knew it existed doesn't make sense.

as 'Whiners' and 'anti-whiners' we are still a minority vocal group here (even put together) the silent majority aren't necessarily giving away the true state of things.

Just my oppinion, no attacks, no anti-whining.


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