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F19_Klunk 08-02-2012 05:15 PM

damn.. again I went into the debate.. again.. I shouldn't.. so I bid you are fare well.. and again.. see you when the patch is out :D

Jaws2002 08-02-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by F19_Klunk (Post 450432)
i REALLY hope we have evolved as societies... during those tousands of years....

Unfortunately we didn't. :( Just reading the news is enough to realize we are the same savages we always were.

von Pilsner 08-02-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaws2002 (Post 450435)
It's been proven beyound the shadow of a doubt that I am right:

If you were correct the USA Federal Assault Weapons ban would have been expanded and not allowed to expire. It was not and it did.

Recent history contradicts your statement so you really have not proven anything.

Robert 08-02-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 450402)
I still really do wonder what these anti-guns preachers are doing here in a military combat simulator where they fire with cannons and machineguns at other aircraft.. why you're not using Flight Simulator or X-Plane?


In a wierd way, I follow that logic. I don't mind flying about in my WW2 plane trying to live out my Walter Mittyesque fantasies, but I can't really enjoy games like CoD (the other CoD) or Modern Warfare. I know it's pixels on a monitor, but I don't get enjoyment out of it. I've played with my nephew and have fun when I'm with him, but the gaming experience itself? Naaaah.


I don't know if this is a wives tail spun by pundits to bolster their side of the argument, but if there are over ten thousand laws and regulations regarding gun ownership in the U.S., then why is there need for more gun contriol?

Regarding people like the man who shot Gabby Giffords or the Virginia Tech mass shooter? I think mental health advocacy would be a better solution to that particular problem than more gun restriction. Today, we just discard the mentally ill without any forethought to the consequences of the sufferer or society in general. I don't want to impinge on the personal freedoms, but many aren't getting the care they need because there are few measures in place to assure proper care. Many people, after the fact, reported that there was strange behaviour in both these individuals, and that if there had been measures in place these tragedies could have potentially been avoided.

Jaws2002 08-02-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by von Pilsner (Post 450442)
If you were correct the USA Federal Assault Weapons ban would have been expanded and not allowed to expire. It was not and it did.

Recent history contradicts your statement so you really have not proven anything.

That's because in USA over one hundred million people got behind NRA and fought togethere united. A lot of democrats that suported the ban were voted out of the officew by their constituents. That's what prevented the expansion of the ban.

Oldschool61 08-02-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaws2002 (Post 450448)
That's because in USA over one hundred million people got behind NRA and fought togethere united. A lot of democrats that suported the ban were voted out of the officew by their constituents. That's what prevented the expansion of the ban.

Please post the link confirming your wild statements.

Oldschool61 08-02-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kendo65 (Post 450414)
Can i also say that many in the U.S. seem to have extremely low faith in democracy, checks and balances, etc, etc.

If the country was emerging from 60 years of communist dictatorship I could understand more what that was about, but for a country that prides itself on democratic values and freedom there seems to be one hell of a loss of faith.

THe peopel who have low faith are primarily the hard core right wing extremists (aka republicans). They are the american equivalent of the taliban.

Outlaw 08-02-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldschool61 (Post 450456)
THe peopel who have low faith are primarily the hard core right wing extremists (aka republicans). They are the american equivalent of the taliban.

That's a bit of a ridiculous comparison but your point is valid. However, I would not say they have a low faith in government, rather a low faith in overwhelming government.

To me the only thing worse than the far right is the far left. That's why I reside near the middle. Neither right nor left, I call it the intelligent zone.

--Outlaw.

Outlaw 08-02-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by arthursmedley (Post 450383)
Yes, I think it makes them nutters and idiots and I do think people who want to collect firearms have personality problems.

An advanced stage bovine spongiform encephalopathy infected 108 year old suffering from alzheimer's has enough cognitive power to determine that the above is a truly asinine statement.

It would be interesting to know your definition of an idiot.

--Outlaw.

swiss 08-02-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by arthursmedley (Post 450383)
Yes, I think it makes them nutters and idiots and I do think people who want to collect firearms have personality problems.

I think people who collect garden gnomes are a bigger threat.
Remember: You can use only one at the time.

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Btw. I have the highest respect for the "occupy wallstreet" people. But they didn't need guns to make a point.
That just fits perfectly. Yuck.
Some of their core ideas were ok, but most of them are just unwashed lefties/commies/hippies - human trash.
F' them.


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