But if the projector broke 2/3 through the movie, you would ask for your money back wouldn't you? Well, maybe you wouldn't, because it's obvious that people who compare flight simulations to movies just don't have a clue. That's what we got here, 2/3 of a sim. If that. I haven't even gotten an hour of enjoyment out of this sim yet for my $50 because it's just plain broken. Now instead of patching the remaining 1/3 that will make this playable, they want more money to deliver what was expected and/or promised. Ummmm....No.

They do?

Odd, I didn't read that anywhere.

The "big patch" or whatever you want to call it will arrive well before any expansions to the current sim come on stream.

Now if it's dynamic weather you are on about then yeah, that is much further out and will be after the release of BfM.

Things change in life, even more so in video game development, and especially in projects with the scope that this series has.

I don't see why this is so hard to understand.

But if you must toss your toys out of the pram, go right ahead.

lol..

Again....

Were never see eye to eye so the whole 'throw yer dummy out' and 'this is a waste of money' rubbish will just go back n fourth

the 2 sides will NEVER EVER agree with one another yet will still fill this forum with garbage

Why if someone says that they have wasted money the fanbois cant just agree that that is their judgement and their opinion

The title is going to be fixed or will certainly get better in time for all those who think they have 'wasted' their money..

QUOTE:Things change in life, even more so in video game development, and especially in projects with the scope that this series has.

I don't see why this is so hard to understand UNQUOTE

and i dont see why its so hard to understand and just agree the game 'wassssss' broken..

let people have there views without jumping on them

and yes

£50 is a lot to some people..if they are pi$$ed let them be, let them vent..your happy with the release so no need to comment

this place is like a stuck record

It's just funny how people overlook the obvious. I popped online real quick last night to see how many folks were playing online. You probably know the answer, about 12. For a game that supposedly supports 128 I have never seen more than a dozen people or so playing online, thats in the whole world. Doesn't that tell you something? This speaks volumes that the community has spoken and this is not the sim of the future yet. With a zero immersion single player experience(no ranks,medals, etc.) and only the CLOD faithful flying online, a sequel at this point will fail. They need to add the features they are planning for the sequel to CLOD first, then treat the sequel as an expansion with new planes,theater, etc.

Umm, I'd suggest taking a reading and comprehension class. I'd say it's you that doesn't have a clue. The analogy I was making, which should be clearly obvious to an individual that can read the English language, is that we've all wasted money on things that "promised to deliver", and some of those promises only last a little over an hour of supposed enjoyment. And a movie with snacks that only lasts roughly 1.5 hours can cost you 1/2 of the price of a sim that will continue to be updated, improved, and fixed. (Hopefully this will spell out my original post)

But instead of throwing a teenage tantrum because the money I spent on a sim, one that will be fixed, one that is going down the same road of the old IL2, isn't working at 100% yet, is laughable. You're entitled to your own opinions, of course.

Then you speak of online. There's usually more people online in IL2COD than any other online flight sim out there besides the old IL2 that has a 10 year old built up community behind it. So with your thinking all these other sims like ROF and DCS/A10 complete crap as well? I'd say with IL2COD coming in 2nd most of the time, only compared to the original IL2, I'd say there's many people out there like me, who are having a very good time with this sim, even in it's buggy state.

I'm not sure why the "waste of money, and will never amount to anything" crowd are still here.

I´m not sure why this thread still has the title fresh from russia when it contains welked stuff from all over europe (incl. the opener imhho) :)

+1

Clarify, plz :-D

+1
very good post!