You lefties aren't nearly as smart as you think you are. You are going about it all in the wrong way and using the wrong fear motivator.

Dump the "Green" label which will never be separated from the sandal wearing pony-tailed, latte sipper image.

Take a clue from the only other alternative energy market, the far rightwing bunker "survivalist" crowd.

If you and all your buddies in the blogosphere started an "American Independence" movement that didn't whine about saving polar bears and instead touting saving money on energy so to better afford luxury polar bear hunting safari's, you would probably make more headway.

Yeah I know it's not an American issue, but start it here anyway.

But your point your missing here is the scientist took the 'data points' back in the 80s and projected it to the future and said we would all be dead due to AIDS by now..

That is the problem with a lot of scientific models..

They don't allays take into account all the variables..

Especially the ones that can cancel one another..

And as time goes by they learn more, such that they may even include another variable

Which explains how the scientist were saying ICE AGE in the 70s and 80s and than switched to GLOBAL WARMING in the late 80s and 90s

You have to give them some credit thought

In that the scientist felt pretty silly after that 180

So now they call it CLIMATE CHANGE that way their A is covered and they can take credit for either direction the temps go

hahahahahaha you nerdly little dork . Go change your contacts .. Here's a tissue I guess I hit a nerve with that last comment .

Your second paragraph describes andy to a T

Yikes.. I thought the left were the moderate ones willing to listen to all points of view?

Yes , they are so superior and have astounding intellect .

I've just outlined a way to turn American right wing rednecks into environmentalists.

I demand that my brilliance be recognized.

The fish is dead and is now starting to smell really bad.

Turd

It's kind of ironic that our friend andy - while being uber-green and against "Big Oil" , is using this WW2 sim. Which simulates battles between greenhouse gas spewing aircraft. Unless of course they were electric powered Aircraft . Were they andy ? Electric powered ?Hypocrit much ? You might as well go outside right now and burn a plastic bag .