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Defender 08-11-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 322450)
nope, that's something completely different.

In the movie you see this plane at the brink of stall, tumbling backwards and shooting as it happens, which kinda defies a couple of laws of physics.

That shot was spead up about 27% so they could fit it in so it looks a little weird. It's also far from a "final shot" as most CG elements get completed in the last few weeks before "picture lock" (with a January release date, that's pretty far away).

If anything, at least the rudder position is in an accurate spot.
;-)

_RAAF_Mini 08-11-2011 01:08 PM

I can only imagine Sterjaeger that the shot was filmed this way for theatrical purposes but it is still a possibility.

Sternjaeger II 08-11-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by _RAAF_Mini (Post 322494)
I can only imagine Sterjaeger that the shot was filmed this way for theatrical purposes but it is still a possibility.

yeah, it's quite a "only in Hollywood" shot, and as debated before, it's very very unlikely that a tumble like this would be a controlled manoeuvre.

catchmarek 08-24-2011 07:02 PM

Red Tails: Reloaded
 
Sorry if it's been posted before:

Red Tails: Trailer 2

You gotta love the Su-37 at 1.14, and the guy in the next scene asking: "How did he do that?". :-D

Anvilfolk 08-24-2011 10:12 PM

Isn't the steam engine attack a bit overdone? None of the original videos I've seen does that. Lots of smoke pops up, and that's that. Pressure's gone. No need to make it explode, lift into the air, go around the world a couple of times and all that!

See, from watching all the movies, I thought that if you bumped a car in America, or even farted in one, it would just blow up! Turns out it's not true - who knew?

It's still true for the Zero though...

Ah well, if it fascinates people and they become interested in flying this, it would be great. It would be even greater if IL-2's name was somehow attached to the film. It would bring such an influx of people! I might actually shoot down someone for a change :grin:

combatdudePL 08-25-2011 06:29 AM

They does blow up ! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT0J0rcJTLo

TheSwede 08-25-2011 06:29 AM

Well we all agree on the Hollywoodish factor.
But anyhow, we don't see these kind of movies being done anymore so lets just be grateful. ;)

I do find it amusing that Cuba Gooding has been "promoted" in this film compared to the original Tuskeegee Airmen. ;)
I would have love to see him as Col Benjamin O Davis though.

Looking forward to it but without the "realistic attitude".

//Simon

wildone_106 08-25-2011 05:20 PM

Its a real maneuver, I saw an episode of Dogfights where the actual airman was talking about it. Just because you cant do it in Clod doesn't mean its not possible:grin: This is gonna be an epic movie I cant wait.


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Originally Posted by Defender (Post 322472)
That shot was spead up about 27% so they could fit it in so it looks a little weird. It's also far from a "final shot" as most CG elements get completed in the last few weeks before "picture lock" (with a January release date, that's pretty far away).

If anything, at least the rudder position is in an accurate spot.
;-)


Ze-Jamz 08-25-2011 05:22 PM

Yep..

Will be Hollywood for sure but will still be watched by me...looking forward to it

Sternjaeger II 08-25-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wildone_106 (Post 327056)
Its a real maneuver, I saw an episode of Dogfights where the actual airman was talking about it. Just because you cant do it in Clod doesn't mean its not possible:grin: This is gonna be an epic movie I cant wait.

oh puh-lease, not again :rolleyes:

TheSwede 08-25-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 327098)
oh puh-lease, not again :rolleyes:

The comical thing is that he uses Dogfights as a source.........
Thats just scary wildone_106..

ParaB 08-25-2011 08:29 PM

Any movie where Mustangs blow up the Bismarck is epic by definition. I just hope they include the scene where they blow up that dam at night.

TheSwede 08-26-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ParaB (Post 327108)
Any movie where Mustangs blow up the Bismarck is epic by definition. I just hope they include the scene where they blow up that dam at night.

Did you know that it was a Mustang pilot that captured the German submarine with the Enigma machine on it?! It went down strafing with the Tiger killing .50cals and then German crew surrendered at once. In the following fly-by the pilot opened the canopy and caught the Enigma machine one handed!

The creators of Captain America told me this!



;)

Ze-Jamz 08-26-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSwede (Post 327266)
Did you know that it was a Mustang pilot that captured the German submarine with the Enigma machine on it?! It went down strafing with the Tiger killing .50cals and then German crew surrendered at once. In the following fly-by the pilot opened the canopy and caught the Enigma machine one handed!

The creators of Captain America told me this!



;)

Wow, i never knew that...

What a man!

Skoshi Tiger 08-26-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz (Post 327299)
Wow, i never knew that...

What a man!

And then I got back to base and drank 10 pints of beer and .......

On no! I'm still bound by the Official Secrets Act! It wasn't really me!

ElAurens 08-26-2011 04:34 PM

Don't believe a word of it.

It was done with the P40 Q prototype.

Trust me.

Ventura 08-26-2011 08:24 PM

It's a trailer. (and very well said Hiro) And this is a film, not a flight sim! :) hehe

Hollywood and other Major Film Studios (LucasFilm included) makes movies to cater towards the general audience.

Using the statistics they gather, (numerous is an understatement) Each director has a formula whenever they try to create a movie. As much as we would like to think otherwise, totally factual based history can be rather dry and bland. Drama is needed because conversations, even confrontations can be ...for lack of a better word, boring. (Though now we have reality based TV shows to show each and every one of us how to be a 'drama queen', lol!)

The advantage Lucasfilm has is that it is a self-sufficient entity seperate from Hollywood so that his studio has total say in the product. He did this after his incredible success with 'SW' so that he would never have to depend on backers and Studios when creating his sequels/prequels. And as an Artist, he is constantly refining each piece with each re-lease.

How much of a full hand does he have in "Red Tails"? I'm not too sure. Unlike the 'SW' series, he's probably playing more of a supervising role and delegating some freedom to those he assigned to make the film. Not being 'his baby', he is very aware of how the movie needs to be in order to have general acceptance with the public. So be aware that when things don't look correct, out of perpective, or too close together, etc., there is a specific reason for it being that way as well.

Film is the art of storytelling condensed into a 2 hour (or less) movie.

...and hellyeah! I'm looking forward to seeing this one!!

(Have you seen the theatrical release poster??!!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Tails_Poster.jpg

BTW, it's just a trailer. Still 4 1/2 months till it's release, and a lot can happen behind those closed doors in Skywalker Ranch!

grunge 08-27-2011 09:19 AM

At 2:14 WTF? That's gonna be another LOL film...Mustangs go afte Me262 LOL GG! :D

ElAurens 08-27-2011 01:11 PM

Several 262s were indeed shot down by P 51s and not all of them on landing approach, also Kohzedub bagged one with an La7, which is a lot slower than a 51 in the real world.

Don't let the performance of these aircraft in IL2 blind you, oh and the first time I shot down a 262 online I was in a Brewster...

ACE-OF-ACES 08-27-2011 02:07 PM

I had to laugh watching the video when it said 'based on true events'..

So was that POS Pearl Harbor movie with Ben Assflick

This hyper PC correctness world of ours is re-writing history faster than we can keep up with it.. And not just with WWII events.. Next time your at a yard sale.. by the old history books and save them in a safe place.. They will be worth something someday if not to you but your children.

Jaws2002 08-27-2011 02:51 PM

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Feels like I'm flying my grand father's Buick
They'll turn this film into a plane whining like some of the forums I know.:lol:


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