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swiss 02-10-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 222272)
I preordered mine (download version) at getgames for 50 bucks...

http://www.getgamesgo.com/catalogue/...liffs-of-dover

That's DL only.
They are available from £29.9x

Wolf_Rider 02-10-2011 11:56 AM

I had a look at the Boostep... good if it is true

the item was added on Jan 19, there is no image and the price, including postage) for the CE seems to come in at less than the Australian download version (which is a good thing)

it rings a bell though (its a almost too good to be true bell)

information on the site also suggests the CoD has been region locked, along the same three region system bluray uses

drewpee 02-10-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screamadelica (Post 222233)
Just had a reply from Finland. Their customer service has said that the Collectors Boxed set they are advertising is an English version. I asked them specifically about the manual and map, so hopefully this is the right version for us. They say the game is for the Australian region on their add. They also have an Australian page for the website , so no translation problems there. The Collectors set, including postage is only a few dollars more than the Australian download price! And Gonk, they take Paypal. The address of this wonderful website is boostep.com. Are they any good? Have no idea, but worth a look.:)

Sounds good to me. I've payed using Paypal (never had a problem with Paypal ,Even got money back from bad ebay deal). Still if you wait maybe with all the noise UBI.AU will make things right.

ECV56_Guevara 02-10-2011 01:04 PM

Pushing for south america!!!
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3951064909/p/1

Tvrdi 02-10-2011 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss (Post 222275)
That's DL only.
They are available from £29.9x

yea I said that its a download version didnt I? BTW, £30 is app 50 bucks....and I need game only...

Screamadelica 02-11-2011 12:32 PM

Another Collectors Boxed Set coming to Australia from Finland! And only 2 dollars more than Ubisoft Australia's download!! Pre-order in and paid.:grin: Thanks to RAAF Smouch for finding this site and posting it.
Final thoughts on the whole Ubisoft debacle. Walking into several bookshops in a small country town today, I noticed more books than ever on the Battle of Britain, Spitfires, Hurricanes,etc. With the 70 year anniversary last year and a large range of new books on display, how would anybody even know that this game is available. I walked past the local games shop. Nothing, of course. Unless you know about the IL 2 websites you would never find out about it! I feel that Ubisoft are doing Oleg and 1c a great disservice in the way they have handled this.
There, I feel better already.:)Thanks to all, cheers.

Ernst 02-14-2011 12:52 PM

I would like to ask why UBI does not ll allow download purchasing of CoD for South America? I checked the site and they not sell via download for South America. Shame.

WTE_Galway 02-16-2011 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screamadelica (Post 222623)
Another Collectors Boxed Set coming to Australia from Finland! And only 2 dollars more than Ubisoft Australia's download!! Pre-order in and paid.:grin: Thanks to RAAF Smouch for finding this site and posting it.
Final thoughts on the whole Ubisoft debacle. Walking into several bookshops in a small country town today, I noticed more books than ever on the Battle of Britain, Spitfires, Hurricanes,etc. With the 70 year anniversary last year and a large range of new books on display, how would anybody even know that this game is available. I walked past the local games shop. Nothing, of course. Unless you know about the IL 2 websites you would never find out about it! I feel that Ubisoft are doing Oleg and 1c a great disservice in the way they have handled this.
There, I feel better already.:)Thanks to all, cheers.

... well i contacted PC Aviator who are one of the major online aussie flight sim outlets and there response was:


"Who will be making this title?"



Good one UBI.

Feathered_IV 02-16-2011 09:16 AM

Pitiful. It really makes you wonder what kind of clowns are running the show.

Maddox would have been better doing online distribution themselves. At least then they would get the profits, not hand over the biggest cut to Ubi.

Codex 02-16-2011 09:55 AM

Things that make you go Hmmmmmm ....

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/247641,australian-game-sales---a-pc-win.aspx

Testus01 02-16-2011 10:25 AM

Collector's available at Amazon France
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hanspahlen (Post 220172)
I preordered a Collectors Edition from Amazon.de, they ship world-wide:

http://www.amazon.de/-2-Sturmovik-Cl...6819920&sr=1-1

__________________________________________________ __________________________


I also pre-ordered a collector's copy at Amazon Germany three weeks ago, I see now it's
available at Amazon France:
http://www.amazon.fr/IL2-Sturmovik-C...ecc_rvi_cart_1
Nothing at UK site, which is usually cheaper.

Codex 02-17-2011 01:23 AM

Following Screamadelica and drewpee lead, just pre-ordered the Collectors Edition from boostep.com for $93.95AUD delivered.

UBI Australia = download only for $89.95. :rolleyes:

White Owl 02-17-2011 02:03 AM

I looked at that boostep.com, and saw this: "Usable in regions Suomi,Europe, Middle East, Australia / Region B"

I'm in the USA.

So I guess Americans who want the Collector's Edition are just screwed, and that's that.

:(

Codex 02-17-2011 03:25 AM

Maybe if UBI sees enough of us pre-ordering from foreign re-sellers they may change their minds and finally see what their customers actually want rather than being told what we can have.

I just told a work college what I did and she gasp - "Isn't that illegal!?" WTF!

It's a global market place now, I find it strange that businesses are so ignorant to the fact that their business models NEED TO CHANGE, it's 2011 for god sake if you don't adapt you'll die.

T-JETTer 02-17-2011 10:22 AM

1 Attachment(s)
The Russian version is called "Battle for Britain"
(this is no leak :) ) (official info)

drewpee 02-17-2011 10:30 AM

You would think that with so many old farts like me who like to have some thing in their hands for their hard earned cash UBI would have a couple of boxes full of copies sent here to OZ. Once the printers and DVD suppliers have impute all the data into their copiers a DVD box set would be such a small amount they'd be using spars as drink coasters.

Vevster 02-17-2011 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 224720)
Pitiful. It really makes you wonder what kind of clowns are running the show.

Maddox would have been better doing online distribution themselves. At least then they would get the profits, not hand over the biggest cut to Ubi.

sure. But they would have had to finance the project in full, without Ubi/ Maybe they could not or didn't want to at the time.


Quote:

Originally Posted by T-JETTer (Post 225192)
The Russian version is called "Battle for Britain"
(this is no leak :) ) (official info)



Wrong markings!!!!!

ghodan 02-17-2011 03:40 PM

Bootstep has no pic and no release date.
That makes me worried because it gives me a feeling that they dont pay much attention at the sales department.

Sauf 02-17-2011 06:34 PM

Hi Ghodan, Boostep does have a release date, its up in the top right hand corner of their site in the buy/preorder box. Says 24/03/2011 but that it is only an estimation.

Cheers

Ctrl E 02-18-2011 12:36 AM

ordering from finland to australia has me a bit worried. i'm sure it's legit, but i'd rather buy from an english speaking country so if any problems arise it will be easier to clear up.

anybody got a solid lead on a reputable english-speaking seller who can ship a hard copy to australia for a reasonable price?

P.S. - what a joke that we have to do so much work just to figure out where to buy the bloody product!

swiss 02-18-2011 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctrl E (Post 225456)
ordering from finland to australia has me a bit worried. i'm sure it's legit, but i'd rather buy from an english speaking country so if any problems arise it will be easier to clear up.

anybody got a solid lead on a reputable english-speaking seller who can ship a hard copy to australia for a reasonable price?

P.S. - what a joke that we have to do so much work just to figure out where to buy the bloody product!

I guess the Fins do speak English.
Still unsure? Drop them a line and see if they reply.

Ctrl E 02-18-2011 12:48 AM

no offence to the fins! from experience they usually do speak better english than the average ozzie!

i'm just looking for a better known seller.

ptisinge 02-18-2011 04:00 AM

Same here, torn between options to get CoD in Australia. I saw the boostep pre-order and I'm still not sure about it, it sounds a little bit fishy

recoilfx 02-18-2011 04:06 AM

So is there some sort of official word that the Collector's Edition will be available to US?

Codex 02-18-2011 06:50 AM

RE: using boostep.com

I'm not worried, weather using VISA or PayPal you can always get your money back. If using a Credit Card always ring the bank who issued the card and lodge a dispute, you'll get your money ... its the law ;)

Screamadelica 02-18-2011 08:33 AM

If it's any reassurance, when I emailed boostep.com I had a reply back on both occasions within 24 hours. The sales department speak very good English and took the time to answer the questions I had asked. Which is more than Ubisoft ever did! I am still waiting, haha, for a reply to my email of several weeks ago asking about the availability of box sets for Australia! Had to call them to get that answer.:-x
And now the stores are getting annoyed because they are still selling copies of IL 2 1946 off the shelves, and they would very much like to have Cliffs Of Dover in stock. I even saw a young kid in a hobby shop buying a model kit of, guess what....., a Spitfire.
Ubisoft have their heads in the sand, which just makes it easier to kick them in the @#*!:-) This is such good therapy.

Vevster 02-18-2011 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zauii (Post 220691)
More money goes to the developers directly via db than retail stores.

Steam is a store, and actually takes a higher % of price than retail stores.

So, no more money does not automatically go to the developpers in that case.

When steam acts as both publisher/retailers, they sometimes take 85% of price leaving peanuts to the dev.

imaca 02-18-2011 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screamadelica (Post 222233)
Just had a reply from Finland. Their customer service has said that the Collectors Boxed set they are advertising is an English version. I asked them specifically about the manual and map, so hopefully this is the right version for us. They say the game is for the Australian region on their add. They also have an Australian page for the website , so no translation problems there. The Collectors set, including postage is only a few dollars more than the Australian download price! And Gonk, they take Paypal. The address of this wonderful website is boostep.com. Are they any good? Have no idea, but worth a look.:)

Thanks for the info, think I will buy mine there also. Download is NZ$100 in NZ, so only works out about $20 more for collectors edition.

JAMF 02-18-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vevster (Post 225569)
Steam is a store, and actually takes a higher % of price than retail stores.

So, no more money does not automatically go to the developpers in that case.

When steam acts as both publisher/retailers, they sometimes take 85% of price leaving peanuts to the dev.

And what case is this? Do you have documented cases? So far I have more confidence in Steam being more beneficial for 1C:Maddox than a game sold off the shelf.

ElAurens 02-19-2011 01:40 PM

JAMF,

Vev knows of what he says.

Really he does.

addman 02-19-2011 01:59 PM

I can guarantee you that everything will be in English in CoD if you order it from Finland. Very few games gets localized for Finland, the NHL (icehockey game) series -at least the last time I played it- gets localized but that's because Finland and Sweden have a very high interest in hockey and many of the same people play video games. I'd be more concerned if I ordered from France, Germany or Italy for example. Those overpopulated countries always get their games localized.:mad:

On the other hand, I wouldn't want a Spitfire manual in any other language than English. :)

JAMF 02-19-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 226150)
JAMF,

Vev knows of what he says.

Really he does.

I don't know him or if he has sold his developments through steam, so I'll await evidence before taking any one's word as being gospel.

ptisinge 02-21-2011 12:51 AM

Ok, you guys have convinced me, I'll pre order the collector's edition from boostep. We can always have some mass action against all together against them if they screw it up :cool:

mpetrov 02-21-2011 11:54 PM

For any Aussies, ive started a thread at The Sydney Morning Herald gamers forum, please feel free to contribute. Im hoping if enough interest is generated one of the herald`s gaming correspondents make pick up the ball and get better clarification for Australia.

http://digihub.smh.com.au/node/2004

recoilfx 02-22-2011 06:44 PM

Does anyone know if the Collector Editions from boostep is region locked? I am thinking of ordering it there as US doesn't seem to have the collector's edition.

Screamadelica 02-22-2011 11:11 PM

According to their order details, the copies that boostep are supplying are region locked for Zone B, which is for Europe and Australia. Check the information on the boostep website, it will tell you exactly which areas it is usuable in. Doesn't appear that they will be suitable for the U.S. Sorry.:(

kingpinda 02-23-2011 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screamadelica (Post 227222)
According to their order details, the copies that boostep are supplying are region locked for Zone B, which is for Europe and Australia. Check the information on the boostep website, it will tell you exactly which areas it is usuable in. Doesn't appear that they will be suitable for the U.S. Sorry.:(

Region locked are you serious? I remember a time when dvd movies were regio locked.. but a hack with the remote control punching in some cheat code so to speak had them unlocked. They region lock software also? I mean.. ooh wait that ip adres is from holland so I won't spin up the dvd??? :confused:

edit: oh wait... Now i remember... every dvd has a small gps tracker imbedded :p

Madfish 02-23-2011 01:11 AM

Region lock for DVD usually meant that the drive itself locks to the region of the DVD after 2 or so changes. The actual geoposition doesn't matter, only the region code of the DVD's you play.

WTE_Galway 02-23-2011 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madfish (Post 227252)
Region lock for DVD usually meant that the drive itself locks to the region of the DVD after 2 or so changes. The actual geoposition doesn't matter, only the region code of the DVD's you play.

The questions about region locking have arisen because some European resellers are advertising the Collectors Edition as "Region B".

Region B is a Bluray region code not a DVD region code. It is not clear how a Bluray region code can be enforced on a PC game.

Its possible this "Region B" comment may have been a mistake however it has made some people a little nervous about ordering box versions from other regions.

White Owl 02-23-2011 05:27 AM

Right, it doesn't make much sense any way you look at it. If I were a betting man, I'd bet it's a mistake and the hard copies will work in any region.

But I'm not a betting man, so I'm waiting until it's definitively cleared up before throwing around the cash for a Collector's Edition and international shipping.

kingpinda 02-23-2011 08:30 PM

hehe yeah. I have time also.. wanted the collectors edition but thinking of grabbing the download. I always lose my booklets etc anyhow.

But i've NEVER heard of games/software cd's,dvd's not working on a generic dvd player in your pc. No matter where the discs are coming from. Bluray is a different matter on which i have little to no knowledge. Besides the point though since no pc game has ever been released on bluray to my knowledge. Something to do with -$ per MB ratio- not too mention still not to many people have bluray in their pc.

Wolf_Rider 02-24-2011 04:23 AM

Australia - EB Games may have the boxed standard version available for pre-order from tomorrow (at least that is the respone I got) C.E. version is still a question


:)

Screamadelica 02-24-2011 07:20 AM

Excellent news! Hope it is true. Maybe all our complaints did acheive something after all. It would be great to get the boxed set on release date whilst waiting for the postman from Finland with the Collectors Edition. Lovely!:grin:

Sauf 02-24-2011 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screamadelica (Post 227713)
Excellent news! Hope it is true. Maybe all our complaints did acheive something after all. It would be great to get the boxed set on release date whilst waiting for the postman from Finland with the Collectors Edition. Lovely!:grin:


+1

recoilfx 02-24-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingpinda (Post 227545)
hehe yeah. I have time also.. wanted the collectors edition but thinking of grabbing the download. I always lose my booklets etc anyhow.

But i've NEVER heard of games/software cd's,dvd's not working on a generic dvd player in your pc. No matter where the discs are coming from. Bluray is a different matter on which i have little to no knowledge. Besides the point though since no pc game has ever been released on bluray to my knowledge. Something to do with -$ per MB ratio- not too mention still not to many people have bluray in their pc.

It's not whether the pc will read the dvd, UbiSoft may decide not to activate a region 2 binary when it's being activated on region 1 - that's the issue.

I believe Valve has done something like that - people were buying Half Life 2 from China for cheap - Valve didn't like that, so they disabled activations for games from a different region.

Ctrl E 02-24-2011 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 227690)
Australia - EB Games may have the boxed standard version available for pre-order from tomorrow (at least that is the respone I got) C.E. version is still a question


:)

Well done eb

Codex 02-25-2011 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 227690)
Australia - EB Games may have the boxed standard version available for pre-order from tomorrow (at least that is the respone I got) C.E. version is still a question


:)


Oh man I hope it's true, but I ALWAYS take anything EB says with a grain of salt.

Screamadelica 02-25-2011 08:08 AM

Nothing on EB Games list today. SNAFU.:rolleyes:

Wolf_Rider 02-25-2011 08:41 AM

bugga... did you enquire throught the shopfront, or through their website?

I won't be able to get to a shopfront until Monday

Richie 02-25-2011 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screamadelica (Post 228132)
Nothing on EB Games list today. SNAFU.:rolleyes:


Forget the EB. They're all retards. Their famous last words before a dedicated IL-2 flier shoots them will be.."IL-2 Storm of what??"

Screamadelica 02-25-2011 09:18 AM

Checked out things both at the EB shop and the website. Nada. Nil. Zero. Even if they do stock it , the standard box set will be priced at something like $109 AUD.:( I like Finland even more now, snow, vodka and Collectors Boxed sets! Kippis.:)

Wolf_Rider 02-25-2011 09:49 AM

double bugga...

" Thanks for contacting us!

With regards to IL2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover, I have just spoken with our Buying department and they have advised me that this game will be available to preorder as of tomorrow. We don’t as of yet have a confirmed release date for it, or whether there will be a collectors, but according to them it is definitely being released in Australia at least as a standard edition.

Thanks for your enquiry, we look forward to hearing from you soon.
"

is the wording of the email (received yesterday pm) response... oh, well - see what happens Monday, this little black duck will ;)

Baron 02-25-2011 10:23 AM

Got an e-mail from Webbhallen.com today saying my order for the collectors edition will not be available on release in Sweden.

They offered me a 6 euros discount if a changed my order to the standard dvd.

So, no collectors edition :( (so far)

TheSwede 02-25-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron (Post 228166)
Got an e-mail from Webbhallen.com today saying my order for the collectors edition will not be available on release in Sweden.

They offered me a 6 euros discount if a changed my order to the standard dvd.

So, no collectors edition :( (so far)

I´v been told the same by a fellow squad mate. :(
Thats very sad.

Should we order it from the UK instead then? I guess they will get the CE version at least?

//F16_Simon

Baron 02-25-2011 12:07 PM

I wouldnt bet on it at this point.

Seems very unclear as to witch sites get the CE and when (for preorder)

All we can do is wait.

Yammo 02-25-2011 01:36 PM

My pre-order from "Webhallen.se"(a swedish web-store) was just cancelled saying:
-"Tyvärr har vi fått information från vår leverantör att denna
utgåva inte kommer vara tillgänglig"

which translates to:
-"Unfortunately have we received information from our supplier that this
edition not will be available"


Their homepage now states
"OBS! Utvecklas ej längre!"
Which translates to:
"N.B [Is_being]Developed no longer!"

http://www.webhallen.com/spel/pc/128...ectors_edition


I can just start feeling the kettle of rage, versus UBI-Soft, starting to boil...

Yammo 02-25-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwede (Post 228175)
I´v been told the same by a fellow squad mate. :(
Thats very sad.

Should we order it from the UK instead then? I guess they will get the CE version at least?

//F16_Simon

I told Webhallen to take their Judas-money and piss off... and that I would
spend spend the €6 on postage having IL2:COD-CE sent from UK instead.

So... Just:
1: Find trustworthy that lives in UK, (join a squad or whatever).
2: Have them order the collectors edtition for you.
3: Flip UBI-Soft a mental bird as you pick up the collectors edition from the post-office.
4: And for future-reference, avoid anything which has the "UBI Soft" brand.

Jaguar 02-25-2011 05:01 PM

US DVD websites only so far....
 
Hello all, I just wanted to post some information that I found on the web for our favorite sim pastime.

Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/2-Sturmovik-Cl...8654700&sr=8-1

Gogamer.com
http://www.gogamer.com/IL-2-Sturmovi...VVviewprod.htm

The Amazon site has no picture and it has the release date of April 19th 2011.
(needs an update to help boost sales!)

Gogamer has March 25th 2011

IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs Dover PC
Ship when available
Preorder: AvailableMar 25, 2011
$42.90 You Save: $7.09 (14%) $42.90

Items Subtotal: $42.90
Estimated Shipping: $2.99
Estimated Total: $45.89

The above site only took two days on my 1946 DVD with the minimal shipping. Some ol friends got theirs in one day from California. The main stores I think were a week or two later. Pacific fighter was about the same as well.

To my Canadien simmers. I do not believe they ship to Canada. This of course was the policy when 1946 came out..

If I can find my old reciept with the main phone number, I'll ask if they still are in the business of getting International games (I) . I am confused about the whole issue of who's getting the collectors edition, however, if it is a limited release mabey they could get that as well. This was the case with purchases from Just Flight (England). I hope this is not violating some forum rule but it would be nice if it all was a little less merky. (Marketing)

Wolf_Rider 02-28-2011 01:54 AM

back into EB Games today and still no listing (grumble mumble whinge moan), so the sales attendent got onto head office by phone while I waited and came back with the answer, it should be set up and in the system for tomorrow... lets see what happens

Ctrl E 02-28-2011 04:42 AM

well done mate.

Qpassa 02-28-2011 06:00 PM

I have bought here:
http://game.gamesplanet.com/buy-down...r-2307-39.html

Ctrl E 03-01-2011 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 229126)
back into EB Games today and still no listing (grumble mumble whinge moan), so the sales attendent got onto head office by phone while I waited and came back with the answer, it should be set up and in the system for tomorrow... lets see what happens

still can't see it on the EB website. were they going to offer it on sale on line or was it a matter of having to go into the shop?

Richie 03-01-2011 01:46 AM

Famous last words at the EB store. "IL-2 Sturmo what?" The Electronics Boutique is a crappy store ever since the X Box and PS were invented. If you go into one of those stores asking for a PC game they look at you like you're a dirty homeless person, no offence, and they're Anita Bryant. Mind you half the time I do look like I'm living on the street :)

Screamadelica 03-01-2011 03:31 AM

Just spoke to EB Games store. They have confirmed that they will be selling Cliffs Of Dover in both standard and Collectors Box sets in Australia! Priced at $89 AUD and $109 AUD respectively. No confirmed release date as yet. Well done everyone. Victory is ours!:grin:

Ctrl E 03-01-2011 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie (Post 229456)
Famous last words at the EB store. "IL-2 Sturmo what?" The Electronics Boutique is a crappy store ever since the X Box and PS were invented. If you go into one of those stores asking for a PC game they look at you like you're a dirty homeless person, no offence, and they're Anita Bryant. Mind you half the time I do look like I'm living on the street :)

yeah - but it's just about the only chain store around likely to get it in. i can't see the likes of harvey norman or whatever bothering.

Screamadelica 03-01-2011 03:49 AM

It's confirmed! Spoke to EB Customer Service and the Standard and Collectors Box sets will be available to pre-order as of tomorrow in Australia. They are entering the details on their computer as of this very minute! They have not confirmed the details of the Collectors Set as there may be something different in it for the Australian release, then again, maybe not. Prices are set at $89.95 and $109.95 AUD for each set. At last!:)

Wolf_Rider 03-01-2011 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screamadelica (Post 229475)

Just spoke to EB Games store. They have confirmed that they will be selling Cliffs Of Dover in both standard and Collectors Box sets in Australia! Priced at $89 AUD and $109 AUD respectively. No confirmed release date as yet. Well done everyone. Victory is ours!:grin:

Thanks, I was starting to question my sanity :)

Cowboy10uk 03-01-2011 09:49 AM

OK 25 Days till takeoff, and it seems still no where to preorder COD Collectors edition from in UK, apart from Ubishop, Who have already stated they wont ship till release date.

Its almost like Ubisoft WANT this to Fail, like they did Silent Hunter. I bet when they dont get the sales they want, They will complain its down to A - Pirates as normal. B. No one is intrested in Sims or C. Pc Gamer is over.

They will forget D. They didnt give us anyway to purchase the smegging thing.

Oleg, I want to support you, I want to purchase COD Collectors, (So you guys get more money)

Why wont you let us.

Yes I am aware that Download is avaliable elsewhere, However I only have a 512kb internet connection so thats not practical, also Im old school, I like to have the product in my hand.

Im sorry to moan, But after waiting god knows how many years for this, Then being given a date, yet the only way to pre order is through a internet shop that, well to be honest I want nothing to do with, is torture.

:evil:

Cowboy10uk

Dano 03-01-2011 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboy10uk (Post 229526)
OK 25 Days till takeoff, and it seems still no where to preorder COD Collectors edition from in UK, apart from Ubishop, Who have already stated they wont ship till release date.

My order email from UBI:

Quote:

Product Name: IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover - Collector's Edition
Platform: PC (Pre-Ordered)
pre-ordered release date: Mon Mar 21 00:00:00 CDT 2011
Qty Ordered: 1

Alppiapina 03-01-2011 10:35 AM

Just got email from www.puolenkuunpelit.com (in Finland): "IL2 STURMOVIK CLIFFS OF DOVER Collectors Edition PC will not be released by Ubisoft.
The release changed to the normal version of the game."

Is that true?

LeLv30_Apina

jcenzano 03-01-2011 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alppiapina (Post 229531)
Just got email from www.puolenkuunpelit.com (in Finland): "IL2 STURMOVIK CLIFFS OF DOVER Collectors Edition PC will not be released by Ubisoft.
The release changed to the normal version of the game."

Is that true?

LeLv30_Apina

looks like, I ordered there too and I got the same email. I hope that the english collectors edition they advertised wans´t just a trick to get people to preorder.

Untamo 03-01-2011 11:06 AM

We got the same message from Puolenkuunpelit :(

Indeed looks like that the Collector's Edition has been cancelled altogether.

-Untamo

Wolf_Rider 03-01-2011 11:09 AM

Hopefully someone from1C could confirm?

Dano 03-01-2011 11:14 AM

It's more likely that they jumped the gun and put it up for sale before confirming that they could get it, the original announcement from UBI did state that the CE would be "Exclusively Available" on the UbI webshop.

Untamo 03-01-2011 11:30 AM

Quoting jcenzano's post who's quoting Puolenkuunpelit:

Quote:

IL2 STURMOVIK CLIFFS OF DOVER Collectors Edition PC will not be released by Ubisoft.
The release changed to the normal version of the game.

We are very sorry about the new release information.
The few times we confirmed the products availability the suppliers told the collectors edition was coming according to Ubisoft's release lists.
This was from the cancellation mail gotten from Puolenkuunpelit. My friend got the same.

-Untamo

MrFreeze 03-01-2011 02:18 PM

Boostep feedback
 
Hi guys,

FYI - Got this email this morning from Boostep which I have ordered from, being in the U.S:

"Hi,

unfortunatly I have some bad news about the IL-2Sturmovik Cliffs of Dover Collectores edition: Ubisoft has decided to cancel the release of this game. Here is the official statement from UbiSoft Nordic:


IL2: Cliffs of Dover Collector's Edition
----------

Due to a failure in the manufacturing of several components for IL2: Cliffs of Dover ?I am sorry to inform you, that Ubisoft not will be able to deliver this product as ?requested and furthermore we will not start up the manufacturing again.
I have arranged to have the standard version exclusively for the ?Nordic countries only due to the fact this version only was meant to ?be a downloadable version.
I apologize for the inconvenience this may have cost you and customers.
?Ubisoft Nordic A/S

The good news is that I can offer you a Special Nordic edition for the price of 43 euros + shipping. If you choose to order this version I will refund the difference, of course.
If you choose to cansel the whole order I will refund the whole sum of money.
I am truly sorry abut this since I know many people has been waiting for the release of this game. And I hope the possibility to purchase this special nordic edition some how can compensate parts of the inconvenience. I have ordered some of this game already so all preorders that has been placed for the collectors edition should get one of these nordic edition. It is to my understanding that the difference is mainly that the booklets and such is not included but the game is the same.

Kind regards,
Monika / Boostep customer service"

I'm going to look into whether the CE is generally cancelled and clarify this stuff.

Codex 03-01-2011 10:40 PM

LOL ... I just logged into my boostep account to see the same message.

This is hilarious.

"Due to a failure in the manufacturing of several components for IL2: Cliffs of Dover 
I am sorry to inform you, that Ubisoft not will be able to deliver this product as 
requested and furthermore we will not start up the manufacturing again."

UBI: That's a pathetic excuse.

I've dealt with major product releases in the banking world for years (i.e. new bank accounts / credit products etc.) It's very easy to source an alternative supplier of materials to get your product out. You simply pick up the phone or type on your keyboard and get expressions of interest to supply you with the materials you need. Hell we've even sourced manufactures for promotional material from China and India for goodness sake. Yes you may be delayed, and yes it's embarrassing, but as matter of professionalism, heart and intestinal-fortitude, you'd do what ever it takes to get the product out. It's all about professionalism; this statement is purely a financial cop out in my eyes, nothing more.

Edit: WTF: I just contacted EBGames Australia. I confirmed the CE edition is available for pre-order $109.95 but there's no release date set. It's not listed on the customer web site at the moment but they have it listed internally and the guy said I could pre-order it today.

dash2099 03-02-2011 01:02 AM

I didnt realise how complicated buying a game could be, then ubisoft showed me.

they are killing the image of this game with their antics.. started with the whole pre-order collectors/"no soup for you" stance. no collectors for anyone.. too hard.

probably too late and will never happen, but if 1C decide to sell this directly as a download with all profits going to them and not a cent Ubisoft, i'll happily pay for it twice.

Ctrl E 03-02-2011 01:42 AM

Just went into EB games and they said CoD and the collectors edition was available for preorder. $109 AUD for CE and $89 for normal game. The bloke was very helpful and was even aware of the existence of the game. However he had no release date and said it would likely be released in the US before oz as it would have to come through EB's American parent company game stop.

At a guess this suggests to me that game stop will be stocking both editions.

Ctrl E 03-02-2011 01:46 AM

But just one more thing- has anybody ever had to go through such hassle to buy a commercial product?

Ubi strikes me as one of the most incompetent companies I have ever had anything to do with. Are the a listed company? If I were a shareholder I would be dumping my stock as clearly this company has a very low opinion of it's customers.

Wolf_Rider 03-02-2011 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctrl E (Post 229797)
Just went into EB games and they said CoD and the collectors edition was available for preorder. $109 AUD for CE and $89 for normal game. The bloke was very helpful and was even aware of the existence of the game. However he had no release date and said it would likely be released in the US before oz as it would have to come through EB's American parent company game stop.

At a guess this suggests to me that game stop will be stocking both editions.

yes, at last its on the list... but hopefully the, "from the US parent company" I hope isn't going to be problematic as far as region (yet to be 100% confirmed) coding goes.


crikey... (taking Mr Freeze's post into account now) what a c*ck up

Codex 03-02-2011 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctrl E (Post 229798)
Are the a listed company?

Yep ... and they've taken another beating today

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=UBI.PA

major_setback 03-02-2011 07:43 AM

I just got this message from Amazon Germany:

"Good day,

Meanwhile, there is a new release date of your order (order # 298***********) from January 23 2011th Therefore, the below goods sooner than expected sent to you:

IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover - Collector's Edition
Past anticipated delivery date: April 04 2011 - April 09 2011
New anticipated delivery date: March 29 2011 - April 02 2011"

Screamadelica 03-02-2011 12:29 PM

Boostep have handled this very professionally, refunded order upon cancellation. Highly recommend Boostep customer service.:) Ubisoft take note, this is how a professional company takes care of its customers. Spoke to Ubisoft Head office who assured me that a LIMITED number of the Collectors and standard sets will be available through EB Games at an unspecified date.:rolleyes: This is beyond a joke, what next......

drewpee 03-02-2011 01:26 PM

I to have canceled my order with Boostep due to UBISCREW. Customer service is top notch at Boostep with all my email questions answered immediately (thanks Monika). I will totally deal with them again:-P. Now UBISUCK on the other hand I just hope pull fingers out of each others 6 o'clocks and start repairing the damage they have done to this wonderfully game:evil:. I for one would be happy with a plain singed copy from Olegs office and a calender:-P

Friedric 03-02-2011 05:32 PM

So where can we buy the Collectors Edition in belgium ?

el0375 03-02-2011 11:22 PM

what i do? i live in italy and want a cd-dvd version, even more i desire to purchase the limited edition

Codex 03-03-2011 06:34 AM

Well I just pre-order the CE from EB. Here's hoping ;)

Stonehouse 03-03-2011 09:35 PM

A quick question for Codex and the other Australians who've preordered from EB..Did you order in the store in person or online? I've tried searching in www.ebgames.com.au but I can't find an entry for CoD either standard or CE. If it's there can someone provide a link to the preorder page please?

Cheers,
Stonehouse

Ctrl E 03-03-2011 11:29 PM

i went into the store. they were very helpful but could not provide an exact release date. they said that was down to EB's parent company in the US - game stop.

Wolf_Rider 03-04-2011 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonehouse (Post 230383)

A quick question for Codex and the other Australians who've preordered from EB..Did you order in the store in person or online? I've tried searching in www.ebgames.com.au but I can't find an entry for CoD either standard or CE. If it's there can someone provide a link to the preorder page please?

Cheers,
Stonehouse

In store is the way to go... EB don't have Lockon listed on their site either

Ctrl E 03-04-2011 01:00 AM

i noticed also when i walked in they were selling 1946 for about $10

Codex 03-04-2011 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 230430)
In store is the way to go... EB don't have Lockon listed on their site either

I always go in store, but I only go there as a last resort or just to have sticky nose as to what they're charging compared to other stores/sources.

drewpee 03-04-2011 09:56 AM

Found this claiming Australian CE release.
http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/e...ease-clearance

Screamadelica 03-04-2011 10:01 AM

And this is where the story gets interesting.... I tried to pre-order the Collectors Edition through EB Games by calling them and paying with a credit card.
Unfortunately they are unable to do that.
So, I then had to drive 150km to the nearest EB store to pre-order in person.
As Ubisoft has stated there will be a limited number of copies coming from the US, even if you have pre-paid the full amount, it is a case of first ordered, first served. In other words, even after all that and paying upfront I may still not get a Collectors Edition if not enough are bought in to fill orders.:rolleyes: And so the saga continues....

drewpee 03-04-2011 10:12 AM

Bloody hell 150kms, you are keen on this game. If anyone deserves a CE its you mate.:grin:

Screamadelica 03-04-2011 10:18 AM

Cheers drewpee, are you offering your copy if they run out?:grin:

drewpee 03-04-2011 10:28 AM

From my cold dead hands;)

Ctrl E 03-04-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screamadelica (Post 230523)
And this is where the story gets interesting.... I tried to pre-order the Collectors Edition through EB Games by calling them and paying with a credit card.
Unfortunately they are unable to do that.
So, I then had to drive 150km to the nearest EB store to pre-order in person.
As Ubisoft has stated there will be a limited number of copies coming from the US, even if you have pre-paid the full amount, it is a case of first ordered, first served. In other words, even after all that and paying upfront I may still not get a Collectors Edition if not enough are bought in to fill orders.:rolleyes: And so the saga continues....

whoa - where r u?

DD_crash 03-04-2011 02:35 PM

Just in from the zoo
Quote:

Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
Quote:

Originally posted by DD_crash:
Just one quick question, do the people responsible for the marketing of Cliffs think that they are doing a good job? (especially with the distribution of hard copy of the game)
I honestly couldnt answer that as I don't work with the people who make those decisions. All I do know (as a result of asking) is the decision was based on demand in each region, I suspect based on past titles
Quote:

Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
As things stand the CE is UK only, I have passed on everyone’s disappointment about the situation
Maybe Ubi might change their mind.


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