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Robo. 10-22-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Torian (Post 471954)
if any1 can explain how even a good pilot can pull this off 95% of the time LEGITIMATELY ?

Aim at the cockpit. MG fire from a 109 is extremely effective, I really like the 2 machineguns in the nose. PIlot is often exposed in break-turn so PK is very likely. There is no alchemy in that.

Torian 10-22-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Borsch (Post 471972)
People play single player and feel themselves as absolute aces and then the rude awakening of the multilayer brings them down a notch and produces cognitive dissonance that leads to them talking about cheating... People are much better than the AI ok? :)

There are quite a lot of people who are AWESOMELY better then you, just admit it and try to improve. If you give a firing solution to your enemy, expect to die - simple as.

Borsch, I have over a thousand hours pretty much all on the ATAG server and am very happy to admit that there are plenty who are awesomely better than me. What I am referring to is a very small group who rarely get anything other than a pilot kill and can get them in quick succession. I don't see any1 else who can amass the sheer number of kills in any given server session so quickly. Admittedly they rarely bother to land their planes but just ditch them and get a new plane to get back into the action...just what u like to see in a full realism sim. If AP loadouts, tweaked convergences, low monitor resolution and great flying skill is what is happening then ok. I don't have the expertise needed to know what can be "altered" by knowledgeable people but I know a fair few good 109 pilots who can't hold a candle to these guys. One flight sim I flew years ago was hacked to pieces by a programmer who could assign any hit power value to his ammo loadout so u were dead if any bullet hit ur plane. At least he was up font about it but what I greatly fear is that we are not all played for fools and we have our d'oh moment down the track and say "it looked like a duck and quacked like a duck" but we insisted it was all good.
I guess u really have to be in the ATAG server when these guys are on to appreciate where I'm coming from and I'm not sure how often u get in there.

Torian 10-22-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bikerjack (Post 472002)
Situation awareness is of paramount importance. It's difficult to spot other planes in the first instance and even then to identify a friend from foe is never easy. You have to get up close to check out the plane you are targetting and so your concentration is 100% on that aspect. Check your six and your eyes can easily lose track of the plane you were originally flying towards. This is surely close to reality? How many actual WW2 pilots were shot out of the sky without even knowing what hit them?:(

Kind of the point I am trying to make. Do all that and with difficulty u will end up with 5 or 6 kills in any given server session, sometimes more. When u can get 5 or 6 kills in 10 mins then people are gonna wonder.

Robo. 10-22-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Torian (Post 472022)
What I am referring to is a very small group who rarely get anything other than a pilot kill and can get them in quick succession.

You're suggesting that there is a group of pilots, apparently from Russia, who are too good to be legit. Would you mind providing the nicknames?

I often fly practice on Russian minced meat servers like Repka No.4 and some of the local guys are ridiculously good pilots and shots. I know several other pilots who would PK you when you blink and they are not Russian and there is certainly nothing else than skill in that.

Torian 10-22-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Robo. (Post 472030)
You're suggesting that there is a group of pilots, apparently from Russia, who are too good to be legit. Would you mind providing the nicknames?

Just come into the server on a regular basis and u will soon see for yourself and make your own assessment.

JG52Krupi 10-22-2012 12:59 PM

Do you fly with an open canopy, if you do I think it's only right that you are more susceptible to pks.

Winger 10-22-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 472034)
Do you fly with an open canopy, if you do I think it's only right that you are more susceptible to pks.

i guess so as well. Thats what you get when flying cabriolet:P

Winger

Ze-Jamz 10-22-2012 01:13 PM

To the OPs if original question....armour piercing rounds and already stated E1 can fire 4mgs worth...

Be grateful the Beos don't work online where we could set fire to your aircraft..shocking that they don't but hey ho as I'd rather load them up tbh

Robo. 10-22-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Torian (Post 472033)
Just come into the server on a regular basis and u will soon see for yourself and make your own assessment.

I do actually, that's why I am asking. :eek:

Open canopy or not, if you get it in the cockpit you're dead. The bullets won't bounce off the glass. Same PK with 109 when they expose the canopy in a climb or in a turn and hold your the piper in there and hose him down.

Torian 10-22-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 472034)
Do you fly with an open canopy, if you do I think it's only right that you are more susceptible to pks.

I don't fly with an open canopy and since canopy drag has been introduced I don't know many who do now.


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