yeah I've beaten this to death too. And vulching is fine with me.

why not play another server? plenty of people, including me, happily play on ATAG, knowing the rules.

I don't care if I get vulched. I play almost exclusively red, so I hardly spend any time over blue territory anyway. Change airbase away from the combat. It's such a basic solution. you don't need a specially scripted mission. There are plenty of bases to choose from.

Yeah...we all know getting strafed on the ground was a reality in war. You know what else was a reality? Planes having mechanical problems and not starting, pilot being too sick to fly,etc. Why don't they model these things in the game? Because they aren't fun, that's why. Much like getting strafed on a runway while you are warming up your engine.

I guess that's part of the reason I would never fly on ATAG...not a big fan of scoring easy kills on noobs warming up their engines.

got em in IL-2 1946 too now, and looking even better if I'm honest ;-)

One thing is a strafing run after a bombing mission or an airport attack, but loitering over enemy airfields is just not realistic and stupid, what's the fun in shooting something down in a vulnerable position? :confused:

View it as an opportunity:

1. Warm up at Hawkinge, take off, get shot down. Bugger.
2. Take off from an inland base, gain altitude and approach Hawkinge at 10k feet. Dive on the base and engage the vultures with superior energy.

the correct terms are vulture and vulching :)

when i find a vulture i wait for him to cross my sight while im stopped, once almost shot one

I thought the proper definition for vulching in internet air combat slang was:

You shoot up a guy, his engine is on fire heading down, along comes Johhny A-hole and puts 1 more round in him and says "chalk one up for me" and he gets credit for the kill.

+1

Sadly I think some people will never understand this at all. Is it really that hard to spawn away from the front lines if you don't want the possibility of being attacked on the ground? I wouldn't think so. But obviously others are kinda slow in this department.

Lol take off faster.

If you ain't complaining about it then we ain't doing our jobs.

Exactly.

LOL. On the one hand, folks are always talking about trying to get more people involved in simming, on the other hand, they happily strafe noobs on the runway and when they come here complaining about it, we call them "slow" and suggest that combat sims maybe aren't for them.

senseispcc: The best course of action is to just stay off of ATAG's servers. Things like "honor" and "chivalry" are terms that are lost on these guys and boosting their kills on a leaderboard is all they care about. And most surely don't donate any money to their server.