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SlipBall

08-09-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 453171)

German bombers are a doddle to bring down if you get 2-3 secs into the right spot. No problem to get 4 with the belts in the RAF types. a shallow dive from 5 or 7 high is safe enough with speed, you can access above the armour plating protecting the tanks from there.

Ju88 and Do17 - hit just inside the engine on top of the wing
He111 - hit just outside the engine on top of the wing

This will cause at worst big black smoke as the type wheels away into a death dive, at best an explosion which takes off the wing.

FW200 is easy too.

BR20, that's something else, I've given up attacking them - any solutions?

Yes of course, but I don't want to be charged with treason!:-P

this crew bailed, so no hit count
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...Ball/BR20m.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...pBall/br20.jpg

macro

08-09-2012 11:11 PM

i hit the tails of br20's, they come off sometimes, or something catches fire

5./JG27.Farber

08-10-2012 01:53 AM

I shot a wing off a He 111 with a spitfire other times you pump it all in and nothing happens. Its heavily reliant on convergence.

Osprey

08-10-2012 07:02 AM

It always is with wing guns, but there are sweetspots on the bombers.

Thanks Macro, I'll give that a try. (Can't see those pics Slip, my work is blocking them!)

CaptainDoggles

08-10-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 453462)

(Can't see those pics Slip, my work is blocking them!)

108 hits from a Spit I to down a Br.20

Osprey

08-10-2012 10:11 AM

I think I can manage that, but where to put them is the crux.....

KG26_Alpha

08-10-2012 01:56 PM

Size Matters

He111 wings are huge with 2 steel spars running through them.

Compared to the Blehiems wing which is thinner and weaker.

Blenhiem wing with control surfaces

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...1/DSCF0826.jpg

So comparing bombers, as has been done in this thread, you need to remember the difference in size and strength.

HE111 wings without control surfaces.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...1/DSCF2186.jpg

They could take a lot of punishment.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...1/DSCF0085.jpg

gimpy117

08-10-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles (Post 453478)

108 hits from a Spit I to down a Br.20

and thats not a lot of trigger time assuming that those guns are firing close to 1200 RPM if those are the ones I'm thinking of.

tools4fools

08-11-2012 09:32 AM

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BR20, that's something else, I've given up attacking them - any solutions?

Come in slightly from the side, aim for fuselage, about where the wings are. Burns nicely.
Attachment 10526
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As pointed out above it's the guns that make the difference. 109 or 110 with 20mm downs German bombers easy.

Guess there is a reason why later Spits (and Hurries) had cannons - and why the Typhoon went from 12 0.303 to 4 cannon...

Shooting from dead 6 with Brit MG's has little effect. Come in with some angle and hit weak points at close distance and in convergence and you will get them down.

SlipBall

08-11-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 453551)

He111 wings are huge with 2 steel spars running through them.

Compared to the Blehiems wing which is thinner and weaker.

Blenhiem wing with control surfaces

So comparing bombers, as has been done in this thread, you need to remember the difference in size and strength.

HE111 wings without control surfaces.

They could take a lot of punishment.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...1/DSCF0085.jpg

Wow, must have been a horror for the red pilot. Even in the game, it is tricky to not close too quickly sometimes.

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