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WTE_Galway 06-01-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 430882)
It's funny watching people on the internet saying that we should ignore scientists.

Climate Change sceptics either a) actually know better and have a personal agenda or are pushing a political band wagon or b) are really stupid and/or misinformed.

Either way there is no point arguing with them and you unfortunately are not allowed to shoot them.

Not one "expert" quoted by climate sceptics and accoladed in the press has qualifications in climate science. They have a mish mash of degrees across a range of unrelated disciplines but not one relevant to the debate. Interestingly one of the foremost "experts" on the sceptic side is also one of the key figures pushing the theory that President Obama was born in Africa rather than the US (and presumably therefore secretly Muslim).

The genuine debate amongst those people that actually know their stuff is whether the consequences of man made climate change are as dire as many models predict, some experts believe the earth can cope with pollution better than we give it credit for.

Walshy 06-01-2012 04:29 PM

A recent paper by Wolfgang Knorr indicates that the fraction of CO2 absorbed by carbon sinks has not changed since 1850. This was in complete contrast to quite frankly scaremongering article in the Nature magazine that the oceans were struggling to keep up with rising emissions by which the absorption rate had fallen by 10% and was continuing to fall.

Study which disputes the fall

The offending article in Science Daily

This planet we live on has the ability to cope with the pollution better than some experts give it credit for. I will say that yes both sides have wingnuts ..........

David Hayward 06-01-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Walshy (Post 430896)
A recent paper by Wolfgang Knorr indicates that the fraction of CO2 absorbed by carbon sinks has not changed since 1850. This was in complete contrast to quite frankly scaremongering article in the Nature magazine that the oceans were struggling to keep up with rising emissions by which the absorption rate had fallen by 10% and was falling.

Study which disputes the fall

This planet we live on has the ability to cope with the pollution better than some experts give it credit for. I will say that yes both sides have wingnuts ..........

Currently glaciers all over the planet are disappearing. That's not a good sign that the planet is coping with the rising temps.

Walshy 06-01-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 430898)
Currently glaciers all over the planet are disappearing. That's not a good sign that the planet is coping with the rising temps.

Well we are bouncing back from the Mini Ice Age, so glaciers are going to melt but they'll not dissappear .....................

addman 06-01-2012 04:44 PM

How much of a retard do you have to be, to not understand that all the crap (co2, toxic waste, drained plutonium, farming waste etc.etc.) we are polluting the environment with is not good for either us nor our environment?

SlipBall 06-01-2012 04:48 PM

Maybe there are too many people on this earth

Walshy 06-01-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by addman (Post 430901)
How much of a retard do you have to be, to not understand that all the crap (co2, toxic waste, drained plutonium, farming waste etc.etc.) we are polluting the environment with is not good for either us nor our environment?

Are you directing the retard name calling at me??? Why the name calling and I'm just playing "Devil's Advocate" or are you too much of a retard to understand that?? And of course polluting the environment, dumping of depleated plutonium/uranium, farm waste run off, dumping in rivers etc. is not good for us or our environment.

Walshy 06-01-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 430904)
Maybe there are too many people on this earth

We are definately overpopulated ..................... we need another pandemic to thin the population a good bit and ease the strain!!! :):grin:

5./JG27.Farber 06-01-2012 04:57 PM

Addman, CO2 in the atmosphere is good. - In balance as all things. Sulphur, lead, fossil fuel pollution (not CO2) is bad.

AndyJWest 06-01-2012 05:02 PM

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CO2 in the atmosphere is good. - In balance as all things
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