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pupo162 12-11-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto (Post 369283)
IIRC side arms where not supplied tho the RAF during the BoB.
And a Messerschmitt BF 109 dogfighting over Ireland? I higly doubt that!
They could barely reach London and then had to take an sharp eye on their fuel gauge, as they didnt had the 300 liter externals during the BoB.
IMHO it would be more historical correct with an Spitfire fighting an long range recce plane and not a BF 109. ;)

i tought it was strange too, but according to end credits, multiple german fighters were shot down in ireland.

Kongo-Otto 12-12-2011 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 369306)
Actually, the 109 could easily reach London, in fact, most had enough fuel left over to fly back to France! ;)

Well ditching into the channel without fuel in sight of the French Coastline or on the shore also counts as "Flight back to France" i assume. ;)

Kongo-Otto 12-12-2011 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pupo162 (Post 369299)
i tought it was strange too, but according to end credits, multiple german fighters were shot down in ireland.

They mentioned: "From 1940 to 1945 some 240 Allied and German servicemen were interned in Ireland under the Laws of Neutrality."

Servicemen means every Military Branch.
They say mention Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe aircrew in this link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13924720

All in all there were interned in Ireland:
  1. 140 Germans, mainly Luftwaffe and U-boat crew (including Survivors of the Kriegsmarine Destroyer Z27, Torpedoboats T25 and T26 which have been sunk Dec 28th 1943 after Combat against RN Cruisers HMS Glasgow and HMS Enterprise(Operation Stonewall) in the Bay of Biscay and rescued by Irish Merchant Ship)
    There is no further Information about the Luftwaffe Personnel, but i highly assume that it was Personel from Recce Planes because the Sea around Ireland was a scene of heavy Convoy Battles during the Battle of the Atlantic and frequently flown over by Recce Planes like the FW-200
  2. 100 Allied servicemen from Poland, Canada, New Zealand, Britain and sole American Bud Wolfe.
  3. 400 IRA internees

Kongo-Otto 12-12-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 369380)
Not enough fuel to reach London would indicate most ditched somewhere N of Dover/Hawkinge on the way N? Where'd you get your history facts? lol

Sorry my mistake, i misinterpreted something i did read. :oops:

ElAurens 12-12-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto (Post 369265)
Btw one of the rarest Wehrmacht sidearms and today one of the most wanted collectors item is this one, only about 8250 have been produced.

the Norvegian Kongsberg M1914 (license built Colt M1911) in the Wehrmacht known as: Pistole 657 (n) (Picture shows Post war produced Model circa 1946-1947)
http://forum.valka.cz/attachments/4461/kongsberg.jpg

Interesting how they changed the slide release design. I'm assuming it is chambered in .45 ACP?

Osprey 12-12-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 369063)
We just can't wait until we do this in CoD...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=FOaGhE_sejI


Sooooo funny!! LMFAO!!!!


Back to topic. I read that German pilots were not allowed to carry a weapon in the BoB because if they went into the drink some would prefer suicide to awaiting rescue.

I prefer hypothermia, it's a cool way to go out.

TomcatViP 12-12-2011 06:57 PM

Really ?

You'd better share a night with all those poor guys sleeping in the street in central London :evil:

BadAim 12-12-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TomcatViP (Post 369572)
Really ?

You'd better share a night with all those poor guys sleeping in the street in central London :evil:

It's a pun you git.

BadAim 12-12-2011 09:41 PM

The Sauer 38H was also popular with the Lufties.

SIDWULF 12-12-2011 10:00 PM

Armed pilots? Well no, its almost as useless an idea as being able to walk out of your plane.


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