Shift+F1, works the same way in CoD.

And have you tried the same key combo in CoD?

Actually no it doesn't. I tried a couple missions and when it came down to aiming (shift F1) I noticed one big difference with Il2. In CoD when the pilot is "loosening the straps" and possibly leaning over to the aiming sight, he can not look up. Which doesn't make too much sense to me really... If you think about it there is NOTHING which would prevent the pilot to look up in that configuration, but of course he would not be leaning over to the sight anymore.
I think the devs should think about it, and cancel the shift F1 when ever we look up instead of blocking it. Or maybe we can still look around but we get more head shaking in maneuvers when straps are loosen up, especially in negetive G maneuvers.

Anyways, this is all details.

yeah thats what i found,hence why i knew they were talking reticle when they said sight.

Mate instead of being rude to fellow forum users, how about reading the patch description before making posts about the patch not fixing what it has been stated to fix?

How did you get 'center the pipper' from this description released with the patch:
"Fixed Bf. 109 gunsight misalignment;"

How can you interpret fixed... misalignment as changing the shift F1 functionality? What is currently still misaligned that needs fixing? Shift F1 isn't misaligned or needing fixing it isn't broken, it might not be what people want but it's not broken.

Someone owes someone an apology. The devs are working through their holidays and this is the thanks they get? RTFD! Get your facts straight before you point fingers.

Have the sense they're making the game playable and stable ATM.
It's on good way aparently.
Bugs are numerous but when it's flyable, already a great step.

[QUOTE=xnomad;279254]..Someone owes someone an apology. The devs are working through their holidays and this is the thanks they get? ...QUOTE]

with all my true affection, regard and support to devs most of us payed to be an end user of their product not to be a beta-tester! So in my profession I'm usual to work on holidays and weekend to fulfill my obligations to tmy clients.
I'm becoming a little tired to say ''Thanks alot!, Great team, Great work, Thanks again!'' at every nonworking_beta-patch release'. I think it's time for some externation as: ''The devs team deeply apologise for failing in achive the expected results, we are terribly sorry and we'll support all the customer who bought our unfinished product as best as we can. Thanks, thanks again!''
Cheers

Please, let's not go there again...:)
It only leads to more arguments.

[QUOTE=pupaxx;279269]Don't lump me in with the fan boys. You don't see me posting "Thanks alot (sic), Great team, Great work, Thanks again!". What I was trying to get across is that they are working on it and this is a beta patch for a reason. Instead of having a proper bug report that is constructive, to the point and would help the devs, the thread appears to be nothing but complaints with no facts or helpful information to back them up.

I'm certain that the problems are not each developers fault, it's a management cock up. If my bosses cock up and I have to work on a weekend then I don't expect the customers to have a go at me either. They know there are problems, they are working on it, what more can they do? Not sleep at all?

In all honesty, without wearing rose tinted glasses I am enjoying the game. I have not had any problems running the game on great settings since day 1. I've had a bug here and there but nothing show stopping and I've clocked up 50 hours on it. So from my point of view when the devs work through their holidays for the $50 bucks I've paid, I respect their efforts. You make me work 1 hour overtime I'll charge you way more than $50 so I feel my moneys well spent.

Example Portal 2, downloaded, loved it finished it in 8 hours paid $50. COD $50 still playing 50 hours and still going; I can't complain I didn't get my money's worth.

Anyway this is another pointless thread that gets nowhere. I remember 6 months back everybody screaming, just release it we don't care if it's beta we'll play it anyway.

Oh and with the someone owes someone an apology I meant Smink to Remo not to the devs, but an edit messed that up.

@xnomad

I apologize with u, I admit my post was an automatic and instinctive response to your sentence ...'The devs are working through their holidays and this is the thanks they get?'... sentence I read at first glance in this thead without considering what was said before.
Regarding people who blindly thanks and are gratefull for last patch I was referring at me 'in primis' cause until last patch I was among them and sincerely.
Yes, perhaps I'm contributing to a fruitless waffle, but this shoud be representative of a widespread feeling of discontent. Devs should take into account a mass of discontent customers. I bought Clod glad for what I got with my money, I enjoy this game (vanilla version) with no terrific limitations hoping in a future tuning; at regard of outpouring I think some pressure should be practiced (within the bounds of good manners).
Last moaning 4 me
Sincerely, Pupaxx
:( Ciao