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Originally Posted by Doc_uk (Post 255317)

Well i think, that this is not right, ive seen some vids of other user flying cod, and there aircraft control is almost rock steady, but no matter what i try, these planes always want to dip, turn right, this sim should not be this hard to control
I can understand some you are saying, But, this is how its ment to be, well if i was flying these fighter in relal life then i would bloody land and tell my crew to sort it out :)

Can we get any offical word from the makers, that this is how its meant to be or
is there a problem?

I have just tested all fighters in this game, and every one dips to the right constantly.
Tested the bomber and they are ok.....

In real life it is effortless to trim a plane out, in fact I do it without thinking about it. In a simulator however it's much more difficult as there is no 'feel'. The effect is very much real though. Many aerobatic types with large power plants and sizable props often need constant rudder to counter the P factor.

A twin prop usually has contra rotating props which counteract yaw so you should notice no right turn tendancy.

What I do is keep on a bit of rudder, as trimming in either FSX or IL2 is a bit like chasing your own tail. In a real plane I can hold an altitude to 20 ft or so and a heading to a couple of degrees, in all but the most turbulent conditions. In a sim I am much less accurate. With practice you should get to know how much rudder pressure to hold for a given power setting. Hope that helps.

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Originally Posted by BlackbusheFlyer (Post 253860)

Wind really does not effect an aircraft in flight unless you get am abrupt change of direction of the wind. The aircraft is flying in a body of air which is moving, so the main effect is the track the aircraft takes over the ground.

The reason for lateral trimming of an aircraft is largely related to the gyroscopic effect of the prop. At high revs it will cause the tendency to slowly drop a wing. Too prove the point, try reducing prop RPM and manifold pressure to a slow cruise and you will find the rudder input required to maintain straight and level flight is reduced.

To solve this most pilots either hold a little rudder or preferably tweak the rudder trim. Bare in mind, every change of RPM/Man Pressure will require re-trimming the aircraft, Power, Attitude, Trim is handy to remember.

It's the way it works in the real world.

So rare to find a man who knows his stuff in this world ;)

It's like belting your head against a brick wall trying to explain this, so few programmers seemed to understand it in the past. Hopefully IL2 staff understand the concept of wind as a moving box of air ;)

I am having the same problem, even with all realism settings turned off. All speeds and altitudes and trim settings, the plane constantly banks right. I noticed that in the no cockpit view(ctrl F1), the very bottom left HUD "ball" that show the stick position shows the ball a tiny bit to the right of center, thus the right banking. Another thing I found is that when I hold the joystick a tiny bit left and get the ball centered and the plane flying level, then pause, then let go of the stick, then unpause, the plane flies level until any stick input is given, then it's back to banking right again. I tried 2 joysticks, Saitek X65F ($400) and Logitech Extreme 3D Pro ($10) and the same thing on both sticks.Trim has absolutely no effect on this banking. Sure hope this gets fixed.

It is not a bug!!! It is a feature!!!

:D :D :D

I would have no problem with this if the torque and gyro realism effects were turned on, but with all realism effects turned off, the plane should be able to fly level with hands off. I unplugged all my joysticks and flew with the keyboard (yuck!) and the problem is still there. Does everyone have this problem or is it just a few of us, can anyone fly hands off straight and level(applying trim as needed) with the spitfire or hurricane?