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Swagger7 10-26-2009 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Doktorwzzerd (Post 112383)
Speaking of the Squadron Leader's cockney accent, it also bugs me a little bit that the game portrays members of the working class as officers. England still very much had a class system at the time and that system very much excluded all but the gentry from having an officer's commission, which was required to be a pilot. Generally speaking, the lower classes were restricted to serving as enlisted and NCO aircrew servicemen. I am sure there are exceptions to this, but generally speaking its true. See the BBC film "Piece of Cake" to get a sense of how rigid those social divisions within the RAF were.

Of course this has no effect on gameplay, but I can't stand it when games and movies attempt to graft modern personalities and social norms onto the people of the past, Brothers In Arms:HH being a game that particularly turned my screws.

Keep in mind that the game was made by Russians. They kind of axed class structure in Russia during the Revolution. What I'm saying is it's something that they might not have even thought about, rather than a purposeful injection of modern values.

Swagger7 10-26-2009 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 112283)
Kinda like in the movie The Battle of Britain, where instead of a German accent. The German bomber pilot, shouts "SPITFIRE!" in an English accent. I think it's somewhere between the smoking Spit, and the Black Lab with the sad facing looking on; and the final showdown at the end?

Maybe he's just trying to pronounce it authentically? Like how I say "Perie" instead of Paris, since I've taken French. (I know, it was probably just a gaff and I'm being too optimistic.)

Panzergranate 10-26-2009 04:15 AM

Now in the old war comics of my school days, German pilots and crews always shouted "Actung Spitfire", "Gott in Himmel", "Hifle", "Die Englander Pigdog" and other cliched banter.

War comic RAF banter was always "Wizzard prang, old boy", "Jerry on your six", "Spiffing", etc.

During WW2, Geordies (folks from Newcastle) we'ren't allowed to fly aircraft as they could have been mistaken for Hungarians when speaking and shot down in mistake of being a German ally.

Even in the 21st century, Geordies still haven't learnt to speak English properly.

I'd prefer the cliched RAF fighter pilot banter in the game.

Doktorwzzerd 10-26-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Panzergranate (Post 114235)
War comic RAF banter was always "Wizzard prang, old boy", "Jerry on your six", "Spiffing", etc.


Wizzard prang, old boy? I like that haha, what does it mean?

Doktorwzzerd 10-26-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Swagger7 (Post 114225)
Keep in mind that the game was made by Russians. They kind of axed class structure in Russia during the Revolution. What I'm saying is it's something that they might not have even thought about, rather than a purposeful injection of modern values.

Oh yeah, I'm sure it wasn't on purpose, I think people just have a tendency to assume that the past was relatively like today, but it wasn't.



"The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."

—L.P. Hartley

Doktorwzzerd 10-26-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Swagger7 (Post 114225)
Keep in mind that the game was made by Russians. They kind of axed class structure in Russia during the Revolution. What I'm saying is it's something that they might not have even thought about, rather than a purposeful injection of modern values.

Oh yeah, I'm sure it wasn't on purpose, I think people just have a tendency to assume that the past was relatively like today, but it wasn't.

"The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."

—L.P. Hartley

Swagger7 10-28-2009 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Doktorwzzerd (Post 114358)
Oh yeah, I'm sure it wasn't on purpose, I think people just have a tendency to assume that the past was relatively like today, but it wasn't.



"The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."

—L.P. Hartley

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