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jimson8 06-03-2012 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 431590)
This isn't an American issue - it is a global one. This isn't a 'leftist' issue, it is a scientific one. You're probably right about the link between terrorism and 'gas' though - the West (and the US in particular) has done much to create the sort of conditions where terrorism thrives through repeated military interventions, support for autocratic regimes, and other acts designed to ensure future oil supplies - not that it has actually succeeded.
Whatever, if you want America to lead then you need to change your approach because what you are doing now isn't working.

SlipBall 06-03-2012 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WTE_Galway (Post 431585)
The whole "Man Made" issue is irrelevant and just a distraction.

The argument seems to be "its all a communist plot and doesn't exist, but even if it did exist its not Man Made (translated as capitalist/American made) its actually natural resulting from sun-spots/volcanoes/Justin-Bieber/ice-ages/fluffy-kittens and therefore we can ignore it.

If you said to someone "do not worry about that cancer which is killing you its not man made so ignore it" they would look at you like you are mad.

There is really nothing that we can do to change temperature. We are in our eighth year of temperature decline world wide. Just enjoy the warmth and count yourself lucky to have been born in this era. The cold will be coming along, and our descendent's will have to deal with that.

AndyJWest 06-03-2012 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jimson8 (Post 431592)
Whatever, if you want America to lead then you need to change your approach because what you are doing now isn't working.
I don't want America to lead. It is too late for that - I'd like them to at least attempt to try to catch up with the rest of the world. And for the umpteenth time, this isn't about America. This is a global issue. The climate doesn't recognise borders. We all share the same atmosphere. If we could build a giant impermiable bubble around the US, and let them choke on their own fumes. It might improve the situation, but for now we'll have to learn to cooperate. (Or swim... ;) )

ACE-OF-ACES 06-03-2012 03:17 PM
All I know is if my SUV got the mileage this 'man made global warming' myth got there would be no problems in the world! ;)

pencon 06-03-2012 03:21 PM
What you want doesn't matter Andy . Your opinions are irrelevant and mean very little.

MadBlaster 06-03-2012 03:26 PM
What you really should be worried about AJW is the possibility of global depression. This is a risk that actually exists and can be quantified. Last week, Bill Gross made some statements. You might want to go to PIMCO website and read his latest. PIMCO going bond vigilante. it's getting serious. Nobody is worrying about false gods right now.

jimson8 06-03-2012 03:27 PM
For the umpteenth time it doesn't matter whether it is a global issue or not, if you consider America to be the biggest problem, then she will have to be on board if you want a solution.

You aren't going to get there by repeatedly calling us stupid rednecks.

You want us to reduce the use of fossil fuels then find another way to motivate, because your approach isn't working, is it?

Wolf_Rider 06-03-2012 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 431565)
~ Still, anything to divert us from the facts - which are that the overwhelming consensus amongst the relevant scientific community (the only people qualified to make meaningful statements on the subject) is than anthropogenic climate change is real, and is likely to have significant negative consequences. This is the only fact that matters.


Its all poppycock

pencon 06-03-2012 03:33 PM
Leftists are of the opinion that economies don't matter in the grand scope of the average temp fluctuating up or down by half a degree .Even though the entire global economy is about to tank ,let's aggravate it further by taxing the hell out of anyone still stupid enough to work for a living .

pencon 06-03-2012 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 431603)
Its all poppycock
Finally someone who gets it .


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