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Hooves 04-13-2012 09:33 PM

So basically you don't have a chance against a 109 unless you have your 3 friends with you. So if my 3 friends aren't on, I'm not going to log on either, leading to others not logging on leading to a bunch of empty servers, except for the packed blue team of coarse.


I love how the realites come out of the wood work when the nerf that has just occurred benefits them. But cry foul when anything is touched on their beloved aircraft.


Realism simply will not work in an online environment. At least not the realism that 1c is apparently going for. If a single player can't log on and have half a chance of surviving 5 mins let alone getting a kill. Well guess what.... They leave and they don't come back. Like it or not that is online gaming no matter what your targeted audience. if you aren't going to somehow enforce the tactical directive of the LW, how on earth can you think that FM realism will produce anything but discontent? In this case the circumstances are as equal to if not more important than the FM.

addman 04-13-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch (Post 408897)
Nothing wrong with it now! I hope they've re-introduced mixture control though! :grin:

However, Addman old bean, a lot of work seems to have gone in to the G.50, and the Blenheim, and they've altered the Hurri MkI.

Which Airforce do you think that points to for the sequel?

Oooo yeah baby! Time to uncork the koskenkorva and replace the landing gear with landing skiis.:cool:

Tavingon 04-13-2012 09:41 PM

Time to pack a vodka hipflask in the flight suit and a tokarev ;)

philip.ed 04-13-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 408824)
You got any examples?

I'm looking outside and seeing (a dark) England as I speak. They can't see what I'm seeing. It's one of the reasons why I think the landscape could be so much better.

I have access to a number of notable museums on the BoB. They don't.

I mean look at the game: the markings for the RAF A/C are off in places, it could always be better. They've done a great job in most places, but things could be better. Note that a lot of the sources they used for their resources have come from people like myself (e.g. I assisted in the RAF clothing seen in-game. They didn't use all of my research though...)

kestrel79 04-13-2012 09:47 PM

I'm already looking forward to the new UI being worked on for BoM. The CloD is very ugly and clunky.

Yesss improved g50! I used to fly this thing more than the 109 online when I fly blue :)

Rumcajs 04-13-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooves (Post 408899)
Realism simply will not work in an online environment

Either you have a simulator or a balanced online game. WWII was not balanced by any means. So the only solution to have great online sorties is to modify the FM of all fighters to match or to be balanced around a chosen standard . Yea it sounds like an option for online gaming.
Or wait for some of the next sequel installments from around 1944 to get things somewhat balanced naturally.
Mk IX, 109G6, 190A8, P51, La7 .. name some others

Hooves 04-13-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 408905)
I'm looking outside and seeing (a dark) England as I speak. They can't see what I'm seeing. It's one of the reasons why I think the landscape could be so much better.

I have access to a number of notable museums on the BoB. They don't.

I mean look at the game: the markings for the RAF A/C are off in places, it could always be better. They've done a great job in most places, but things could be better. Note that a lot of the sources they used for their resources have come from people like myself (e.g. I assisted in the RAF clothing seen in-game. They didn't use all of my research though...)

Can you be a champ and literally go outside and take a picture of the local landscape and post it here? I for one have only seen the country from the confines of lakenHeath afb.

AKA_Scorp 04-13-2012 10:00 PM

Terrific news can't wait for the patch.

planespotter 04-13-2012 10:04 PM

Yes bring it pls, i am exiting to get it!

Hooves 04-13-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumcajs (Post 408908)
Either you have a simulator or a balanced online game. WWII was not balanced by any means. So the only solution to have great online sorties is to modify the FM of all fighters to match or to be balanced around a chosen standard . Yea it sounds like an option for online gaming.
Or wait for some of the next sequel installments from around 1944 to get things somewhat balanced naturally.
Mk IX, 109G6, 190A8, P51, La7 .. name some others

1944 seems a long way off for 1C. I mean it looks like we are going to bounce around in 1939 - 1940 in each theatre before we move on. That seems like the only viable fix for this issue of hugely overpowered sides.


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