I've been getting offended all the way through, sport and from the start... what am I to think?

that probably you exceeded your daily posts so you should stop writing idiocies?

my point made...

if the shirt fits, albx...

yeah... fits very well, you ironed it very good... (no more TIR arguments? are you done?)

that would depend on what else comes in... are you okay with that??

you are bringing me in an unexplored land... should i begin to offend you? nah... you don't need my words because almost 80% of users that answer your posts thinks what exactly you are... they told you so many times :D

P.S.
go to bed it's late there, you have to get up early to go to school

You've been copping #### all the way through because of your style of "discussion".

For example, I would have thought an adult would be capable of understanding an analogy, rather than taking it as a literal (and thus irrelevant) point.

why do we have two threads about the same topic?
Yes, they started with different ones, but now they pretty much merged.
Please let one die. thx.

I'm sorry your (collective) points and arguments just aren't holding water... that's why you (collective) are so upset

The reason you believe "our" points aren't holding any water is because:

1. You refuse to even look at them objectively.
2. You ignore points to which you have no counter arguement.
3. You can't answer simple questions when asked directly.
4. You fail to understand the points some people are making eg. the joystick analogy.
5. You state your opinion as fact and when someone disagrees, you then:
6. You deflect by telling people to read through the thread because their point has already been addressed (when it hasn't).
7. You construct posts which look like they are replies but actually aren't eg. by saying things like "see point 1" when point 1 doesn't even address the issue.
8. When someone tells you you're not addressing the point you say stuff like "what has that got to do with the thread?" trying to make it look like they are somehow attacking you.
9. You repeat the same arguments again and again because you believe your opinion is fact.
10. You also accuse people of personal attacks against you and then go on to call others fasists.

It's kind of hard to have a discussion with someone like that.

Now, you'll probably read this post and see it as some kind of attack against you but it really isn't, this is merely what I have witnessed from reading through these threads - when I said ealier "you clearly can't be reasoned with" I meant just that, you have a clear bias on this subject and no amount of reasonable discussion will change that so there really is no point continuing in this debate. At this point noone is going to change the others 'side' so why go on any further?