so do i detect a real flight simulation fan there under the hood ? in that case all i can say is welcome, you have arrived at the last great hope for ww2 aviation fans. the only problem is that it is still under construction, so there is some patient waiting to be done. some of us try and pass the time providing bug reports and suggestions for improvements

but while you are reading the forum, just mind the thread turds left by trolls, and be aware of the mesmerizing swansong from the depressive sirens with the deranged minds who lure you to the cliffs of doom where all is black and ugly

instead, be on the lookout for glimmers of hope and signs of progress, there are some great things in the making

for me and my mid range pc, CoD only just became playable since the last beta patch, but i didnt buy the sim full price at release time because it was quickly evident there were some major problems. seeing the leap forward CoD is from the il2 series, and how much depth and complexity the sim was constructed with, it was an (over) ambitious project from the start (given current hardware). it has some incredible potential however, and you can either try and help it get there, or get stuck in some lamentation look where you forever morn your lost few dollars, your choice :)

Meaning what exactly?

True.

BOM will work out of the box, if it can survive to that point, because of this painful development period.

This sim has been struggling for life since its birth, is being slowly nurtured along although resources are few and far between. There is an angry mob of detractors who take a perverse glee in jeering its faltering progress.

If it can be allowed to live and grow, and if the developers are talented enough and work hard enough, it has a chance to be a really remarkable game.

Barking up the wrong tree.

I have submitted bug reports, held on hope, talked this game up on other forums, and finally came to the conclusion it just isnt happening. As I said before, the devs might want to make this game good, but obviously cannot.

As a true flight sim fan, I am content now with the DCS series. Clostest thing to consumer flight combat sim on the market. Besides the best sim version of the P-51 to date, it has little to offer in the WWII genre (for now), but that is ok. I would rather enjoy the modern airframes, and wait for more WWII planes from this company, than painfully try to play CLoD, and ignore all the missing features, and bugs. Done it long enough.

Who knows, maybe 777, or another company will have something on the market in the 2 years it will take for 1C to "maybe" have this mess cleaned up, if they are still in business.

Anyway forget all that, this is Luthiers thread, and he will back anytime last night to answer questions. Luthier.....

I am a farther of 4 Zap, and you will be pleased to know they are all healthy. I've been talking crap 2 years before the release of this game, my credibility is far far greater than yours, and unlike you I paid for the game.

yeah, that, translated to CoD, is what we all did. But unfortunately, in our case, there was no background reading to do beforehand... not many people could know that this would be a big rip-off.

And you call yourself Zapatista? That's the biggest insult to Zapata I've seen today :rolleyes:

Could someone kindly point me to the area where, excluding engine sounds and tracers, CoD got better in any way over those 18 months? At release, my CoD ran reasonably fast, and it looked even better, if I remember correctly. So... what exactly did those 18 months to us? Anyone?

Yeah, grateful, exactly. You are an agent provocateur, right? I mean, no one can be that naive on his own, free will. Your first name is Ilya, isn't it?
I played along for quite some time, too. Reported bugs as detailedly as possible, defended the simulation from cheap shots while at the same time hoping that all will be well in 6 months' time, as everybody said.
That time has long since passed.

Enough of the back and forth arguing. If you want to fight with each other do it via PM, not in public.

ahh tree again with his lies and personal insults, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

i really hope for your sake you are putting on an act, because if this is really the best of your deductive reasoning effort after 1.5 million years of evolution, we might as well let climate change run rampant and have it flush your genetic line away

correction 1: as previously documented i was given a copy of the sim shortly after release (when i already had made the decision to delay purchasing it because of the large amount of problems reported)
correction 2: i been right here tree, since 2007, its you that's been gone for extended periods because you keep getting banned, found those interruptions confusing ?
correction 3: i still bought the sim once patches were released that indicated improvements to make some small token act of support to something i believe in, and yea baby, since the last beta patch its actually playable on my mid range pc and starting to look good

now just make sure you ignore facts tree, spread your little lies, keep thread crapping and keep misleading people in flightsim forums, and ........ make sure you blindly and doggedly ignore anything good or positive about SoW :)

ooops sorry Uther

didnt see your last post while i was typing :)