There never was any 'doctored evidence' - you've been fed a pack of lies. By the oil industry mostly. Still, I'm sure they are very grateful. Maybe if you ask them nicely they will give you as discount.

Since nobody seems the slightest bit interested in actually dealing with the facts, rather than delusional half-baked conspiracy theories, as far as I'm concerned, this topic is closed. If the loons want to carry on patting each other on the back for their ever-increasing demonstrations of wilful ignorance and gullibility, fine. They can carry on without me - and I suggest that anyone else educated beyond elementary-school level leaves them to it too...

Yeah yeah sure sure ....I guess it's loons vs brainwashed lemmings .It always amuses me when socialists get so upset if everyone else doesn't agree with them. The whole climate thing is all about controlling everyone and taxing the crap out of them .We just see through the BS and I guess some of us are not conformists. Other sheople just believe everything they're told by the GOVT FUNDED "scientists" ,who would get their funding cut if they didn't say exactly what they are told to say .Used to be scientists could be non partisan .This whole thing is PURELY political .I don't really care what the lemmings choose to conform to. As long as they don't try to force their newfound religion on the rest of us like a bunch of self righteous control freaks .That's the part many of us would like to deny - Radical left wingers trying to force their opinions on the rest of us and making us pay for THEIR "cause".Holy crap . It was a half a degree hotter today than it was on average 30 years ago on this day . Wow. I'm freaking out .

The worst part about the whole global warming scam, is that people/ governments are spending money to prepare. Planning for a warmer earth, when in fact we are at the dawn of an ice age. Warm climate is one thing, but a cold one will bring much war...hunger brings that inevitability

We're on the dawn of the climate being the same as last year .Yaaawn .

Pencon, do you consider Margaret Thatcher a ' Radical left winger'? http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/108237

Seek psychiatric help...

See? exibit A . I never even mentioned you by name in my post and you go on a personal attack because I don't agree with you . Typical conformist left winger brown nosing the govt and govt owned "scientists" .Remember andy , don't be a slave to big oil , walk everywhere from here on in to avoid being a complete hypocrit . Margaret thatcher is a politician and like all politicians she's inherently full of crap .This is where you're deluded , you seem to think there are honest politicians .

Pencon, you are a conformist. You conform perfectly to what Fox and co tell you to. Now tell me why a 'conformist left winger' would be quoting what Margaret Thatcher said regarding climate change? Oh, hang on, you can't reply to that because it doesn't conform to your ridiculous conspiracy theories. I think I'll go and read one of Raaaid's threads, for a bit of rationality and common sense...

The "overwhelming consensus" seems to be with those who think man made global warming is a hoax...

AJW & David... Calm down! All you two know how to do is drag a debate down into personel slagging matches, what is wrong with you two? - Relax.

The only reason your quoting thatcher and being "open minded " is because she too has drank the koolaid .$money$ talks , and she has obviously been bought off .If she didn't agree with your theory you would accuse her of watching fox , glenn beck yada yada yada . It's always the same so called insults with you govt conformist liberal extremists .At least I can say all politicians on both sides are full of crap . You on the other hand wouldn't DREAM of saying that about any lefty politician , so YOU are the conformist - you go along with EVERYTHING they say .If obama killed your child , you would still think he was the greatest thing since sliced bread .

LOL! This one is funny! Has any one consulted the meteorologists? Just sayin'.