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You know what you can only try and explain so much to a child before you realise that the child is "special"!

"Don’t argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

On that note, I will post a vid of a online flight but will not be "contributing" anymore to this "thread".

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Originally Posted by Opitz (Post 422557)

it is alpha version of beta patch - FAIL... what they will release next - next alpha patch to test again? when?

That is usually what happens... then maybe another one, then the Beta arrives, which requires further testing... get it?

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Originally Posted by Vittuuntunut (Post 422562)

It think it´s also safe to say that you must live in some mentally unhealthy denial to still find excuses for this mess. BETA or ALPHA, it doesn´t make any difference, it´s clear that once again we have been mislead (promises of major, I say again, MAJOR FPS increase and whatever). Labeling this previous release as beta-alpha-whatever just bought devs (again) some time on this forum filled with mindelss sheeps, that seem to clap their hands for any bit of disastrous code released by Luthier & co.

Yeah, we don`t want them to have more time to fix this, do we?

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Improvements brought by these "patches" have never been real improvements. It is just like Tree said: 1 step forward 2 steps back. That´s the reality of CLOD if you judge it by the standards that make some sense in the real world.

I`m quite baffled by you listening to Tree_UK. He just proved he can`t even read.

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Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 422568)

they`ve asked us to help. Those who are willing to help. You are obviosly not willing to do that. Why causing chaos to those who want to help?

QFT. I believe the purpose of this alpha patch is to try and nail down CTD bugs. If you don't want to help, or can't help, then its probably best not to install it, and just let the people who do want to help just get on with it.
For me this patch is not for playing CoD, but for testing CoD, and trying to fix the CTD's some are having.Not all, some, including me. If I can help in any way, by sending in crash files and logs I will.

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Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 422568)

Maybe they wanted to isolate some issues and see if the version with some features turned off will be rid of them? That`s the way testing is done.

I`m not sure if they wrote it anywhere, but my understanding is that they`ve asked us to help. Those who are willing to help. You are obviosly not willing to do that. Why causing chaos to those who want to help?

Causing chaos to those who want to help? Are you serious? I am telling them that the FPS and stutters are still in the game and this is not helping them? Maybe I should tell them all is great then. Jezz It's not like I can send them a log of the stutters and FPS issues is it? I can only report it here. Just like I tried to help in another thread about people using a FPS limiter.

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Originally Posted by PotNoodles (Post 422577)

I am telling them that the FPS and stutters are still in the game and this is not helping them?

Have you posted your findings in the bug thread?
Put your system specs in your sig, so the devs can see the system you are running.

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Originally Posted by furbs (Post 422548)

Have a look at the thread title Carguy, you must of know what the subject matter would be right? yet you cant help reading and posting in here.

Yes, I expected its content. I found false information posted by some users, more of the same meaningless speculation with no grounds whatsoever. In my opinion 1C does not deserve any of this. As long as you post based on the truth then I can`t do nothing about it. It is your interpretation of the data and the event. It is wrong, not true and that is why I need to point it out. Tree_UK has switched the patch topic to a whole different vision which does not in any way reflect what 1C is doing. There are many users reading this stuff and draw wrong conclusions. This needs to be countered - not with speculation but rational interpretation of the data and events. You speak through rage. I speak through what I analised.

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you dont like my post so you attack me!

If you read that as an attack then it is not my fault. I asked you a question. Maybe you have relevant grounds to post what you post, but you certainly didn`t explain them so far. If all what you posted was he truth and not speculation through rage, I wouldn`t even make one post here.

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Its another reason to complain?, its the same reason as 14 months ago, tell you what might help Carguy, put me on ignore.

If I put you and others on ignore, I couldn`t counter the misinforming you and others do.

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Originally Posted by PotNoodles (Post 422577)

did you put it in the Bug Thread?

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Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 419449)

Good day everyone!

The patch is ready! What we have today is a DX10-only alpha. DX9 support is specifically removed. If you are running DX9, do not apply the patch!

The main purpose of the alpha is to find and squash any remaining or new bugs, especially crash bugs. The most common of the infamous launcher crashes have been fixed, but a few very hard to catch bugs remain. On average, a full day of flying causes about 0.8 crashes, and our internal testing has not yet provided the crash logs needed to zero in on the issue.

Please enable logging in your conf.ini (Log=1). If the game crashes, send us your log as well as any crash dump files created in the cppdump folder in the main game installation. Email everything to ishevchenko@1cpublishing.eu

So! Get testing. Get reporting. Make sure your logging is enabled, and send us your crashlogs!

Installation Instructions:
Just extract to your
[Program Files]\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover
And play!
Version number is 1.06.17582

We don’t have a complete readme at this time, but a rough list of changes is below.

Known Issues

• Not fully optimized: grass, clouds, and trees. Clouds cause constant FPS drop; grass and trees cause hick-ups. A few extra days of work for this, a few days for grass, few days for clouds, we felt that we could start open testing the patch without waiting for these changes. • Texture cache failing to draw higher-res textures on close-up objects with lower settings on below-recommended video cards.
• Weathering textures on aircraft appear shiny in shadows.
• No damage decals on aircraft from small-caliber hits.
• The hit flash effects are temporarily turned off.
• Far and medium distance clouds are temporarily turned off.
• Text in dialogue windows in the mission builder may appear bugged with other dialogue windows underneath.
• The front line in mission builder and minimap is drawn incorrectly.

Changes and Improvements

Performance

We've performed a huge amount of work improving both average and minimum FPS in the game. Most recommended-spec machine will see a roughly double average FPS and a significant reduction in the micro-freezes that had previously plagued the game. Their frequency, duration, and overall FPS impact will be greatly reduced or completely redone.

Some of the changes include:

• Completely rewritten render pipeline, which reduced CPU load;
• Rewritten texture manager, reducing stutter when loading new textures;
• Moved landscape geometry generator to its own CPU core, reducing stutters;
• Optimized tree code, reducing stutters when moving across landscape or rotating camera;
• Moved grass generator to its own CPU core, decreasing stutters during low-level flight;
• Moved all building and vehicle damage models to be pre-loaded, rather than dynamically loaded when they are destroyed. This increased mission loading times and memory usage, and reduced stutterswhen blowing things up;
• Improved multithreading in many other aspects of the code, improving minimal FPS on most multicore machines.

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 422575)

I understand where you are coming from here Uther, but currently I am beta testing War thunder and they are not releasing it to the public yet because they want to nail down the netcode, bugs, features all at a steady rate.

About every 3-days (sometimes daily) Gaijin are updating their software to fix bug reports. Now that's service!

The thing is Cliffs of Dover is already out, people have paid money for it and now they are being asked to Alpha and beta test it.

We all now a Patch can bring it's own issues but the original release of Cliffs of Dover has never been stable (to release 'Gold' standard), there have always been crashes, features missing, in a nutshell it was not ready!

Now 14-months down the line, here's a release from 1C that they cross their fingers will do a job that should have been done before release....but here's the 'get out clause', they'll call it an Alpha/Beta and that way when the issues are still not resolved, well, it's not their fault as it was only a Alpha/Beta patch. not the full one we have waited for since release day?

I already stated, I'm 'on the hook', I will patch and I will buy the BoM in the hope I can actually have a working Simulation (and if they can get it stable...what a simulation!) but really, so long since it's release and we are still at 'sticking plaster' stage? It's not a really a good show is it?

I had hoped by now, not to be Beta testing software on a paid for release. I think if any of the patches had made the game as it should have been released AND THEN we were Alpha/Beta testing a new feature/update/effect that would be more than acceptable, it's just that currently the Software is still being fixed to bring it up to how it should have been released.

It's more a question of trust I think?

Do you trust them to part with more money when BoM comes out. Sadly (as I mentioned about the Hook) I think most players who hope for a sim will no-doubt spend their money (I already said I will), but this is just because I live in hope of the halcyon days of IL2. Whether BoM will fix CloD, I don't know, but for those who aren't willing to take that step, it really is sad that nearly a year-and-a-half since release, the software is still missing the dynamic weather (promised but now not coming until BoM) and the developer's are asking the community to Alpha/Beta test the software.

MP

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Originally Posted by furbs (Post 422600)

So only your opinion is the truth? and mine is not?

What I post repeatedly are facts. Information. You are posting an interpretation of them which is obviously wrong.

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Can you prove what i have said is untrue?

How can I prove you wrong since you don`t have anything to support your claims?