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ATAG_Bliss 05-06-2012 12:27 AM

Everyone,

If you are having CTD's / launcher errors, I highly suggest downloading from the link in the 1st post from B6.

Another guy on coms, just chose a mirror site and found that his download version was a different size (in megabytes) compared to the link in B6's post. I highly suggest if you are having problems to use B6's link.

I've been online playing for almost 6 hours straight without a single launcher crash. This includes several sorties of all human heavy bomber sorties etc., yet no crash. There is tons of netlag and many other problems, but I think many of the ctd issues may be caused by a corrupt install.

Verify integrity in steam, make sure to install the patch in the steam/common/Il2 folder (not the documents). Make sure it overrites files for both Bob and Parts folders. Delete the entire content of the cache folder or just delete the folder itself. Start the game and repost back.. I just can't believe that everyone is having the CTD issues here. Everyone we've told this to on TS has yet to get one (when installing right).

It's worth a shot. It's nice not crashing anymore :)

macro 05-06-2012 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 419924)
Everyone,

If you are having CTD's / launcher errors, I highly suggest downloading from the link in the 1st post from B6.

Another guy on coms, just chose a mirror site and found that his download version was a different size (in megabytes) compared to the link in B6's post. I highly suggest if you are having problems to use B6's link.

I've been online playing for almost 6 hours straight without a single launcher crash. This includes several sorties of all human heavy bomber sorties etc., yet no crash. There is tons of netlag and many other problems, but I think many of the ctd issues may be caused by a corrupt install.

Verify integrity in steam, make sure to install the patch in the steam/common/Il2 folder (not the documents). Make sure it overrites files for both Bob and Parts folders. Delete the entire content of the cache folder or just delete the folder itself. Start the game and repost back.. I just can't believe that everyone is having the CTD issues here. Everyone we've told this to on TS has yet to get one (when installing right).

It's worth a shot. It's nice not crashing anymore :)

tried this no change. works great for5-20 mins then all of a sudden, stutter then launcher crash.

Bonkin 05-06-2012 01:20 AM

Finally - the Blenheim is a breeze to fly now! Just been out for about an hour in it and it was a joy. Before it was a real handful - always looking over your right shoulder at the temp gauges - but now... very stable.

I wanted to fly online but no servers were being listed. Had that problem before.

Like a lot of others I've noticed that the cockpits have lost a lot of resolution but I'm surprised by the number of reported CTD's. I've been lucky I guess... has very rarely ever happened to me - and certainly none so far with the patch. Perhaps this is an install issue? I unpacked everything to a temp folder first and then copied the contents over - ensuring that all original files were overwritten. Before this I made sure that automatic updates were disabled in steam.

A reminder to those complaining - you are ALPHA testers. Your help is needed to make this a better product for all:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 419449)
Good day everyone!

The main purpose of the alpha is to find and squash any remaining or new bugs, especially crash bugs. The most common of the infamous launcher crashes have been fixed, but a few very hard to catch bugs remain. On average, a full day of flying causes about 0.8 crashes, and our internal testing has not yet provided the crash logs needed to zero in on the issue.


So! Get testing. Get reporting. Make sure your logging is enabled, and send us your crashlogs!


Blackdog_kt 05-06-2012 01:29 AM

What Bliss said.

I just finished a 5 hour session on ATAG and out of all the people that installed using this procedure, i think only one or two had problems. I call this a pretty good result for a patch that is not even beta. Yes, they told us this patch is an alpha version.

When i joined ATAG the other guys were already in the middle of their sortie, 4 88s in formation and none of them crashed. I couldn't catch up but i joined them in the next sortie. We took up a few 110s for a bomb run, saw some AI blenheims and decided to go after them so we jettisoned bombs. We hit the AI, then two Spits came for us.

Next mission, again 3 human controlled Ju88s. We took off, formed up and got an escort by 2 109s and a 110, all human controlled. Again, not a single CTD.

Plus 2-3 more sorties with us in 110s that also went without a hitch.
The best thing of it all? I couldn't even fly the 88 before this patch because my CPU would overheat and cause the PC to restart. So i know that when they say the new patch is easier on the CPU, it's actually true.

I was flying for 5 hours with a small 5-10 minute break between sorties and the sim was rock solid stable throughout it all.

Were there any bugs? Sure there were. But they were exactly the kind of bugs mentioned in the patch notes, the bugs they already know about and are fixing for the next version.

All in all, on my PC (which is far from high end) the patch does exactly what it says so far.

Oh, i tried the Blenheim too. Remember the impossible, stock cross country mission? It is now a piece of cake and the Blen flies beautifully. I even forgot to adjust my rudder trim (it still spawns with right rudder trim dialed in) and despite that, i could easily keep it tracking straight down the center line and take off with 100% fuel and a full bomb load.

CEM is now much more consistent to the Blenheim pilot manual: it achieves higher RPM values than the previous version, the engines don't take forever to warm up, they can be throttled up without sputtering before reaching 200 degrees, you can set partial flaps, mixture is corrected and is now either auto-rich or auto lean, prop pitch is also fixed and correctly models a two-stage prop (only fine and coarse positions), etc. Did i mention you can take off with a full fuel and bomb load from a relatively short runway? I think i did, but since trying to fly the Blen was one of my pet projects early on in previous versions, i'll just say it again...i can't wait to form up with a few more people and start going on daring low-level raids :-P

I'm not saying we suddenly ran out of things that need fixing. I'm just saying this was a big step in the right direction and it's obvious the dev team seems to be on top of things: the majority of bugs reported by people are bugs that B6 already told us exist in the patch notes, ie they are known and we also got a timeframe in which they will get fixed, plus the improvements it was supposed to bring are being verified by numerous players.

As long as the sim is stable enough for the majority of people to fly, there will be enough interest and activity for everything else to come into place. And then, it will also become playable for the people who are still facing problems.

There were close to 100 people on ATAG today. If we can fly in formation and bomb targets, the remaining bugs in the bombers will start getting attention. If these get fixed the bombers will win maps easily, so the fighters will need to organize better. If all this happens, the mission designers will need to come up with something more challenging. And so on, etc etc.

I'm neither disappointed nor ecstatic. I just see the patch doing what it says on the label so far, which is a welcome reverse of the trend we had so far.

If the patch works for you enjoy it.
If it doesn't, report your bugs and post your crash logs.
If it doesn't work for you and you don't want to test, just take it easy and wait for the final patch. This is just an alpha version after all ;)

ATAG_Dutch 05-06-2012 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 419948)
the majority of bugs reported by people are bugs that B6 already told us exist in the patch notes,

Nope. The RAF fighters have uncontrollable throttles.

MB_Avro_UK 05-06-2012 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I_want_my_money_back (Post 419878)
Very small minded opinion, unfortunately I can't post exactly how I feel about your comment or the thought process involved in making it because my post would be deleted...

Suffice it to say... I think 'your' view is small minded.

My system is top spec AND I have tested the game on a Alienware machine also... This game is just riddled with bugs and performance issues!

This patch goes some way to fixing the problems but from what I've read so far there is still a long...... long way to go!

As my name suggests I am far from happy at spending my well earned money on this game, how on earth something that performs this badly could ever be released to the public FOR SALE is beyond me!

At the very least they should have the decency to give the client some information about these performance issues BEFORE they pay for it!

My comp specs more than match the 'recommended' specs posted... it was not until I actually played the game online and then searched on the internet that I found out how many people are in the same boat!

Crazy world!

Refunds department????



A troll post.

And he has only one post :rolleyes:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Bonkin 05-06-2012 01:42 AM

Re The Blenheim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 419948)
i'll just say it again...i can't wait to form up with a few more people and start going on daring low-level raids :-P

+1

I think more people might start trying it now too.

Bounder! 05-06-2012 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 419924)
Everyone,

If you are having CTD's / launcher errors, I highly suggest downloading from the link in the 1st post from B6.

Another guy on coms, just chose a mirror site and found that his download version was a different size (in megabytes) compared to the link in B6's post. I highly suggest if you are having problems to use B6's link.

I've been online playing for almost 6 hours straight without a single launcher crash. This includes several sorties of all human heavy bomber sorties etc., yet no crash. There is tons of netlag and many other problems, but I think many of the ctd issues may be caused by a corrupt install.

Verify integrity in steam, make sure to install the patch in the steam/common/Il2 folder (not the documents). Make sure it overrites files for both Bob and Parts folders. Delete the entire content of the cache folder or just delete the folder itself. Start the game and repost back.. I just can't believe that everyone is having the CTD issues here. Everyone we've told this to on TS has yet to get one (when installing right).

It's worth a shot. It's nice not crashing anymore :)


Cheers Bliss, I was having CTDs every 5-10 minutes and a whole multitude of weird graphics bugs but I had got the install from a mirror so just reinstalled patch from blacksix's link and I haven't had any issues yet.

jibo 05-06-2012 02:11 AM

they should release a torrent next time to preserve file integrity

I_want_my_money_back 05-06-2012 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK (Post 419951)
A troll post.

And he has only one post :rolleyes:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.


What's your problem?

Am I not allowed to have an opinion? I bought this game just like you... but I am NOT happy with it.... in your world does that make me a troll?

Get off your self appointed high horse and get out more


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