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AARPRazorbacks 09-21-2011 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 338931)
If you outran him, how do you know it was a Spit IIa?

This is what I said

We came on head to head(E-4 and IIa)
I got the advantage on the IIa but lost him.

He got the advantage on me. I did some definitive moves and lost him.
But he never got on my 6 after that he got the heck out of there because he know that I had him and one lucky shot as I'v been told he would have been out.


Why do you say I out ran him? That's not what I said.

I did said > have fun shooting down the under powered Spitfires.

trumps 09-21-2011 08:10 AM

+1 to what cheese said!

VO101_Tom 09-21-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 338931)
If you outran him, how do you know it was a Spit IIa? It seems your anecdotal evidence is very unlike anyone elses, which points to your evidence is wrong. If you can't gain advantage on a 109 in a Spit II, your flying is the problem.
...

We should organize a 1v1 server to prove the truth.
5 or 10 km apart, at the same speed, same altitude start toward each other. First meeting is free to shoot or not. This decision should be made. The server is password protected, and the dogfights organizing on chat. Whoever is inside, can follow the fights by external view. I fly Spit II very gladly, against anyone who says that the 109 can shoot it down. 8-) Or even Spit I it also prove that it is not a bad AC, as claimed. :rolleyes:

Winger 09-21-2011 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by VO101_Tom (Post 338977)
We should organize a 1v1 server to prove the truth.
5 or 10 km apart, at the same speed, same altitude start toward each other. First meeting is free to shoot or not. This decision should be made. The server is password protected, and the dogfights organizing on chat. Whoever is inside, can follow the fights by external view. I fly Spit II very gladly, against anyone who says that the 109 can shoot it down. 8-) Or even Spit I it also prove that it is not a bad AC, as claimed. :rolleyes:

Please do it, make a gentleman passby (dont shoot in headon and start turning as soon as wintips passed each other). I BET real money on the 109 being defeated in no time, no matter the pilot given the Spit pilot is no greenhorn.

Winger

Winger 09-21-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AARPRazorbacks (Post 338927)
Sorry Winger but the I and the Ia are not right and you do not care about that.

If the I and the Ia where right you would want them off the server if you could not out fly them.

I was on a server where I was flying for the blue team but was able to fly the IIa and was out done by the other pilot flying the IIa more then I liked. lol

The IIa brought some fair play to the server IMO.
The ATAG Server is not putting in the IIa so you got what you wanted. Have fun shooting down the under powered Spit Fires and Ez spin out Hurri. lol


flyer01

I never argued that the I and Ia AND hurri are not right.......................
So is the 109..........................
But given that they STILL offer a balance in performance like its seemingly right even historicalwise.
I told that advantages to disadvantages now several times and am tired to over and over repeat myself.

Winger

AARPRazorbacks 09-21-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Winger (Post 338989)
I never argued that the I and Ia AND hurri are not right.......................
So is the 109..........................
But given that they STILL offer a balance in performance like its seemingly right even historicalwise.
I told that advantages to disadvantages now several times and am tired to over and over repeat myself.

Winger

Winger sorry not a personnel attack here but It's hard to under stand what you mean.
I do not think your English is very good. Or you do a lot of double talk.
As far as setting up a server to fly the IIa and the E-4 there are already servers that have both.
Join in and have at it. lol

Winger 09-21-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AARPRazorbacks (Post 338996)
Winger sorry not a personnel attack here but It's hard to under stand what you mean.
I do not think your English is very good. Or you do a lot of double talk.
As far as setting up a server to fly the IIa and the E-4 there are already servers that have both.
Join in and have at it. lol

Yes LOL:P Obviously you dont get it. But definately not because of my english. (i admit its not my motherlanguage and therefor no the best)
Btw. Its not your motherlanguage as well right:)?

Winger

David198502 09-21-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AARPRazorbacks (Post 338947)
This is what I said

We came on head to head(E-4 and IIa)
I got the advantage on the IIa but lost him.

He got the advantage on me. I did some definitive moves and lost him.
But he never got on my 6 after that he got the heck out of there because he know that I had him and one lucky shot as I'v been told he would have been out.


Why do you say I out ran him? That's not what I said.

I did said > have fun shooting down the under powered Spitfires.

that post screams for evidence!i would suggest that someone who is used to fly british fighters, takes a spitII and fights against you in a E4 on a closed server.both starting at the same alt and speed.if i would have ever flown a spit in cliffs of dover, i would volunteer for that experiment.
...but i bet that its only a matter of seconds until you end up in the crosshair...

ATAG_Septic 09-21-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 339027)
that post screams for evidence!i would suggest that someone who is used to fly british fighters, takes a spitII and fights against you in a E4 on a closed server.both starting at the same alt and speed.if i would have ever flown a spit in cliffs of dover, i would volunteer for that experiment.
...but i bet that its only a matter of seconds until you end up in the crosshair...

I don't doubt you and I predict that if I was in the Spit against an Ace in the E4 I would lose. I know I've said this before but all talk of historical accuracy and balance has to include pilots of different abilities. Doesn't it?

AARPRazorbacks 09-21-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Winger (Post 339019)
Yes LOL:P Obviously you dont get it. But definately not because of my english. (i admit its not my motherlanguage and therefor no the best)
Btw. Its not your motherlanguage as well right:)?

Winger

Obviously I do get it.
You do not want the IIa in any server because you like to make yourself feel good by shooting down the under powered Spitfires.

The IIa was a better fighter then the 109 in a dog fight. did that mean thy never got shot down no.
When I first got into MP I knew that the Spitfires where not what thy should be.
I was told by the 109 pilots that it was not the plane but that the 109 pilots where better then the Spitfire pilots and the 109 where modeled right.

Now we hear that the 109 are not right.

When a pilot went out on his own during the war thy would be in big trouble if thy made it back with out being jumped by a group of enemy planes.

When thy talk about advantage thy where talking about numbers.

The 109 pilots would take on the IIa if and only if thy had the numbers to do so because thy knew it was a better plane.

What are you going to do when thy make the FM of the I and Ia fly like thy should?


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