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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 314613)

100% agree man. My conclusion is that some people just like being shafted really :rolleyes:

I'm sure that the devs will keep on shelling out fantastic stuff (hell, they're already working on the next La UFO, one can only wait with excitement!), my real problem is that I'm not sure whether I'm a fanboi or a whiner (I've been called both so far), maybe we should invent a new term: "fanner", how about that? ;)

'Fanner', nice one! Lol :grin:

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Originally Posted by Biggs [CV] (Post 314561)

The Dev team has stood behind every game they have worked on. I have no doubt that the team will get this game playable for 99% of the people who want to play it. It may take a few months, but you can't expect fast results with a game this complex.

And this is why they are stuggling to fix it http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...393#post314393

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Originally Posted by ChocsAway (Post 314588)

It's good that you have a 'glass is half full' attitude. I wish I could share you're confidence and enthusiasm for the future of Clod.

I'm one of the ones here that finds Luthiers post at best 'flippant', and at the worst... well, somewhat insulting. I do have a sense of humour but I couldn't find anything within it to make me smile (the lad on the banjo is awesome though!).

On the other hand I've had some 48 hours with Clod and some of it was quite enjoyable. It's only in the last fortnight that I haven't touched it due to the many frustrations I'm experiencing with the sim and its being released in a half finished state. I think it's worth remembering that many on here who are being labelled whiners etc. are only cheesed off because not only does Clod not feature a significant amount of the features promised but many of the ones that are included are so broken that it will take months (if not years) to repair them. If Luthier is starting to get fed up with the forum content regarding Clod he needs to address the problem of communication (or lack of it) to the people who've forked out their hard earned cash on it. It's the least he can do to appease the feelings of the people who quite rightly IMO feel they have been shafted with the state of Clod even now a couple of months after release. To accept the shocking state that Clod was released in without complaint is madness and is just a signal to all devs out there that they can release what they want and Joe Public will accept it as a norm or a 'sign of the times'.

I've been gaming/simming since the Sinclair ZX81 came out (yeah, I'm that old!:)) and in all the years since then I don't remember there being such a hoo-haa over a game/sim release as there has been with Clod, and quite rightly so. The lack of pre-release info was enough for me to expect some problems but I certainly did not expect anyone to have the cojones to release something that was clearly still very broken and forced out of the door onto an unsuspecting community desperate for a new sim.

Had we been informed we were to be Alpha testers then that is a different matter, but we weren't! In the end for the devs and publishers it's about money and making as much as possible with as little outlay as possible and where Clod is concerned that is one of the worries. Is there enough money and commitment for Clod to be made into what it can and should be? Some seem to be convinced that the dev team aren't going anywhere...I hope that's true. I bought Silent Hunter 5 and I think I'm correct in saying that the 'plug was pulled' pretty quickly on that one, I'd hate to see Clod go the same way. :)

Hit the nail right on the head. As have a few people before.

I defend my right to be informed of the progress of the repair of my faulty goods. It's a simple matter of commercial expectation not to mention contractual. And no, I don't want my money back I want it fixed.

All those other posters that don't get it... I couldn't care less, my posts are an attempt to get Luthier's attention. Not that he's listening or responding with anything of value.

His OP was amusing and could have been left there but the thread has descended into the usual tit for tat rubbish of everyone except anyone from 1C Maddox.

Not a bad tactic, throw the assembled throng a bone and watch them fight over it. Keeps them off-balance for a few more days. Keeps the same old arguments going and hopefully prevents anyone from finding a new one.

All this moaning about imaginary rights of information, if they weren't meant in ernest they would be funny.

Ernestly people, do you really believe you would be satisfied with more information???

Serious???

Never!!!

The moaning and bitching would start again: why not sooner? We have the right for a fixed game? and so on, and so on...

So Luthier can spare himself all the grief, has only 1 thread of moaning, and can finish the patch in relative peace, as far as that is possible here.

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Originally Posted by robtek (Post 314635)

All this moaning about imaginary rights of information, if they weren't meant in ernest they would be funny.

I disagree. The fact that they are meant in earnest makes them even more funny.

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Originally Posted by luthier (Post 314241)

Yes, we're alive. Me especially. I rarely feel more alive than after a morning reading of the forums!

The sound is progressing well.

General mood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3qbB4Kq3Y0

I have to say the sound this kid makes and which I assume is the new audio to be used for 109 start up is pretty impressive.

May I suggest this for the Spitfire audio?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmAeijj5cM

Cheers, MP

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Originally Posted by robtek (Post 314635)

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 314636)

I disagree. The fact that they are meant in earnest makes them even more funny.

Look guys I know that the moaning is irritating but if you don't mind being kept in the dark that's fine, just don't expect everyone to share the same opinion I have been waiting patiently and trying to stop the flood of constant moaning and therefore labeled a "Fanboy" the funny thing is were all Fanboys otherwise we wouldn't be hear moaning or defending...

For a minigame this would perhaps be sufficent but for a game that some people spent 30-50 buccs on it is what it is ... poor and laughable ...

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Originally Posted by whatnot (Post 314601)

Me too: WOP, Witcher 2, Crysis 2, a ton of PS3 games and the list goes on. I bought so much crap in my life I can't believe it. What I do is try to learn from those bad judgement calls instead of going on a mission on their forums in a multi-month repetitive attempt to make everything right.

It's surprising that the 40$ investment is the end of life for some people here or atleast worth spending their evenings for months on end complaining about it. I think you have either exceeded your budget or been too dumb purchasing a title that was known to have issues before it was even released, instead of waiting for a few reviews.

Let it go! It'll either be a great success if you wait for the fixes or it'll be a grand failure if the devs are not able to fix it in a reasonable time. But any amount of repetitive whining on top of what we've heard already will not change CoD's destiny. Nor will it change the frequency of the updates. But what the hell.. beating dead animals is a joy of-course!

I can see where you're coming from but personally I've had enough of paying out good money for sub-standard/unfinished products. Game developers/publishers are especially guilty of this and I think it's a worrying trend that is all too easily accepted by many. I have to say that you don't seem to be learning much about your bad judgement calls as you continue to throw money away on what you describe as 'crap' ;-):grin: That is your perogative though.

I'd prefer to feel I've had my moneys worth especially as I and many others are feeling the 'pinch' here in the UK which means my gaming/simming budget has shrunk sustantially over the last year.

What I do find a little odd regarding Clod and updates from Luthier is that up until the US release they were pretty regular which as far as I can see kept things a lot 'saner' around here. Then suddenly, leading up to and post US release it goes very quiet which has meant it's really hit the fan on the forum since. I think many here can't help thinking that it all seems a bit 'fishy' and are only seeking some re-assurance from the devs that all is well in the Clod camp. Do they/we deserve it? Yeah, I think so, and it doesn't take much time or effort for Luthier or whoever to make a post to that effect. I'd say it is also in their interests to do so as a more contented atmosphere on the forum will surely help to lead to more sales in the long run.

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Originally Posted by robtek (Post 314635)

that is incorrect, at least in my case. And again, I don't feel like I'm whining, I'm just asking for a long overdue update over a product that I bought 5 months ago. You never heard me saying anything before CoD came out, now that I have it and can't play it Im patiently waiting for updates, but the last thing I will accept, as an adult, is to be mocked by someone I paid to deliver a working product which at the moment isn't working as it should.