Cliffs of Dover meets World of Tanks. Nothing wrong in that, only that WOT works superb on my PC and CloD doesn't...............

So much of that could be your system...certainly the game has issues as well, but not all have launcher crash, and so, an assessment of your system should be looked at first. :)

It just gods to show, Luthiers heart really is in arcade, not in simulation. I can't believe how many of you are lapping this stuff up. Five years from now when you are wondering what the hell went wrong, just remember - you were cheering for it.

Why does it become "arcade" when they add human control of tanks and AA guns?

+1, its a great flight of fantasy......but purely a dream, especially considering where we are at present. Blackdog, whilst I enjoy reading your posts enormously usually, calling people 'shallow' for the terrible crime of not being interested in ground combat when they *drum roll.....shock horror* bought a flight sim is quite laughable IMO, and this really should come as no surprise when one thinks about it. No offence of course. :)

Like I said in my previous post, I am not militantly opposed to it, as such, I just don't care. Its fine and dandy as long as I get a finished CoD. I am happy to take their word that this will be the case, and look forward to that day. Really, its quite apparent that it will be left to modders when the SDK come outs to recreate anything even approaching an immersive BoB.....which is what I bought the thing for (crazy, I know lol)....Like a lot of other folks too, obviously.

We do not have any idea whatsoever that 1c plan any kind of grandiose strategic element to this.....Since they apparently cannot even come up with a Chain home radar network and German radar equivalents on the strategic side of things (despite it being talked about by Oleg ages ago....Like many things), which one would think rather important in something which purports to be a simulation of the BoB; why do you think they can come up with something as complex as the presumably dynamic, all inclusive strategic sim elements you are musing on? What happened to crawling before you walk. The possibility of such a thing? Fantastic. My faith in their ability to do so on current evidence, at present? Sadly, negligible.

As for 'the majority will be supportive of this',* to what extensive market research are you alluding, blackdog? Its just that I and many others don't remember being asked a thing lol. :grin: Only a very small number of customers regularly frequent the forums, hardly representative overall. Its safe to assume methinks a majority didn't give a monkeys about tanks and jeeps, and that was probably the last thing on their mind when they bought CoD.....hehe.

It may be that we will get radar at a later date, if so thats great, but my overwhelming impression is that CoD is being very discreetly shoved into a corner (out of sight out of mind) and that doesn't really wash with a lot of people, its just that only a few have the moxy to say it because they will invariably be attacked. :)

I'm not here to argue, its just an opinion, and its fine that others disagree. :) I'm also not a killjoy, if people want to run around in their poxy tanks then let them......Have fun and knock yerselfs out lol. :grin: Just give us correct performance data blue and red, ceilings, decent AI, systems bugs fixed working AA etc and SDK, then I'm happy as larry. That remains to be seen.....but hope springs eternal.

You've got to have a dream, eh? :grin:

Again, for posterity, not opposed to it so long as flight simulation is the overwhelming focus, I'm happy that others like it, I just sadly cannot share in or relate to their boundless joy. :grin:

I also apologise profusely for being so shallow, unimaginative, and narrow minded. :grin: The truth is, I really wanted the ability to deploy into Britain German FPS Para's disguised as Nuns, with explosive chastity belt 'power ups' and the ability to poison the British water supply with 'Holy water' which is actually really a powerful neurotoxin hidden in special 'bonus areas' of the map by fifth columnist Nazi sympathising traitors. The figure head of this organisation being SpitGirls evil twin sister, Helga the Horrid distinguishable by her wooden legs, and merciless, unseeing, glass eyes. Oh my gosh, the possibilities!

This could only be accessed after achieving a 5 tank kill streak however. Its not like I'm not a dreamer! Believe it or not, I have an imagination, too. :grin:

Right, this post is actually in good humour, so theres no need to kick off. :grin: Its just how I see it, that's all. YMMV. Roll on patch, stay positive.

Peace out. :)

They believe that the twenty guys working on the air aspects of the sim have stopped work to watch a guy or two working on the ground aspects.

What's he mean when he says "Black Death" That's what the Germans use to call IL-2s. Is that the new tittle for Battle For Moscow or something?

+1
Says perfectly what a awful lot of people here think.

Orville, do you mind if i post this somewhere else?

Course not mate, go right ahead. :)

Stop with the common sense and logic, Chivas. You might hurt some fragile minds here.