I really cant fathom what everyones problem is with Steam?! You can still have dedicated servers etc, run mods, do anything you want! Its only platform to launch the game and help stop piracy (which is only a good thing). I think you all need to really sit back and think how this will affect your game play......it wont!

Since you're getting a tad aggressive here let me remind you that
a) steam brings nothing to the table that CoD won't be able to do on it's own, according to the man himself (mr Maddox), so it's more of an option rather than a necessity and
b) it was a publisher decision forced on them and not something they decided by themselves (again, their words not mine).

So, trying to make it seem as if the people who disagree with the decision to integrate Steam are somehow doing a disservice to team Maddox isn't exactly going to fly.

You guys really want to make me look for the exact quotes if i am to stop having to type the exact same reply every few posts , don't you? :rolleyes: :-P


You apparently missed that one. There is already a different DRM implementation for the game called Solidshield, so Steam is not there for copy protection reasons either. That means that even if you like Steam you too will lack the choice to use only Steam, you'll have to use the Solidshield DRM on top of it.

Apparently Solidshield is supposed to be very effective as well, more so than Steam, for the games of which a quick google search will reveal thousands of illegal torrents with an upload date similar to the game's release date.

It's not exactly the safest protection method and i know this from personal experience dating back to 2004 or so, maybe even earlier, and extending to the present day: while working at a webcafe we had valid licenses for all the games but whenever Steam was behaving strange and customers couldn't play, we changed the shortcut links to versions with "workarounds" that made the game playable until Steam service was restored.

Actually, if we can disable Steam but the DRM can't be bypassed it will be a win-win situation for everyone: Solidshield DRM is still in place so the pirates can't distribute illegal copies, the people who like Steam can use it and those who don't can disable it.

I wouldn't be surprised if such a stalemate is reached after a few months.


On a more humorous note...

...sorry, but i can't resist answering this one.

It's a glass of water.

It's enough for some people, too much for some and not enough for others.

Maybe it would be a good idea to let them go to the tap and fill it up a little more or allow them to not drink all of it, or even empty some of it into the sink so that, you know, they can actually decide for themselves about the amount of water they want to drink. What do you think about it? Isn't it a neat idea, or should we let half of them parch and waterboard the rest to show them who runs things around here? Yeah, that'll show them progress, i'm going to be the arbiter of their hydration ration for the rest of their lives! :-P

Absolutely awesome news.

Steam is full of win.

You have just earned yourself a pre-order from me for utilising steamworks.

Steam is the best thing to happen to pc gaming, ever.

Thank you Ubi.

Uhm... You are arguing what exactly?
"That since some/most/all other game has the same draconian, customer
hostile, self-preserving, greed-corrupted EULA... we should quit complaining
that Steam has it?"

Please! Do allow me to chuckle at that concept a minute... *snicker*

...

Furthermore, I have always bought games and given them away to friends
when I've grown tired of them... So, your ad-hoc assertion that "basically
every game has an EULA which prevents you from giving your game away"
is in dire need of more than a few quotes & examples to support it.

Imo, hyperlobby is horrible.
It behaves worse than steam in many respects, like...
- Forcing you to update or you woun't even get connected.
- Stealing Focus at every turn it can.
- Updates forcing itself into "C:\Program files" even-though HL isn't installed there.
- etc, etc...

So, any alternative to HL would be welcome in my book.

LOL...!

Talk about a school-book example of someone getting paid to influence forums.

I'm guessing hired and paid by UBI-soft...
Because no normal gamer would even think of putting the words "Thank you"
and "UBI-soft" in the same room, except during sarcastic hour on Fridays.

There's always someone who has to go...

- If you don't take the blue pill, then you will probably have reservations.
-- If you have reservations, then you will probably have suggestions
--- If you are suggesting something, then you are technically complaining.
---- If you are complaining, then you are whining.
----- If you are whining, then you don't have a point.
------ If you don't have a point, then you should get lost.


Though, I did enjoy your attempt to equate being "anti-steam" with being "anti-everything".



Oh, noez...
I stand in the doorway, waving my white handkerchief, with tears running down my...
...oh wait.

Now the fact you can't use a PC is HL's fault?

Buy a Mac.

The fact that you chose to mis-quote me in order to flame, shows that you
are nothing but a troll. //ktnxbye

Steams multiplayer support destroys Hyperlobby in EVERY way possible.