With all the desperation regarding trees you'd think this is a "forest simulator." if you're playing this game, or quitting, because of trees you're playing the wrong game in the first place.

I am sure people have right to have the complete package which includes trees and shadows.

Of course, I'm not disputing that [redacted], but there are much more higher priority things that the devs should fix first, like 109s flight models and how they seemingly snap into a flat spin upon any abrupt maneuver (I was denied 3 separate dogfights today by 109s going into the drink due to spins upon moving to engage, would have rather actually had a dogfight instead of watching them plummet to the ground.), Hurricanes not starting, launcher crashes, etc. When a players game crashes as he's lining up a kill, or a 109 pilot flails wildly into the ocean as a result of a minor elevator adjustment I'm sure the last thing going through their mind is, "Gee, I wish they'd fix these trees!"

Let's cheer for critical gameplay fixes *first*, then trees, clouds, reflections, tracers, etc.

EDIT: oh and by the way, on the contrary, no one has "rights" to the "complete package." If 1C said tomorrow, "the game now includes nothing but models and no textures...just flat colors" and uploaded a patch to the official steam version that enforced that statement, there is nothing you can do as you do not have "rights" to anything 1C creates, only a license to play what they offer. Just sayin'.

rebbot fixed slow fps
 

You have likely already tried a reboot, but here is an experience I just had:

After installing this newest patch last night, I was getting notably better frame rates. Put my puter to "sleep" for the night...woke it up today and frame rates were lower than they ever had been (6-20). I rebooted and frame rates shot back up to 65-85. Deleting cache and restarting COD did not help...only after reboot did frame rates go back up. In my case, my guess is COD did not like running on a computer that just woke up instead of booting from bios.

I must say though that this patch has brought with it a lot more CTD occurrences for me. CTD's have been very rare for me, until this patch.


******EDIT: Started the pc from sleep mode again today and ran COD. Frame rate was ok this time.*****


ASUS Crosshair V formula
XFX Radeon HD6990
Phenom II X6 1100T 3.3Ghz--clocked @ 4.00 GHz AMD
32 gigs DDR3 1600 MHz corsair mem
Coolit Vantage liquid cooler for cpu
1000 watt Thermaltake power unit
Windows 7 64-bit

Oh ... the Frederich...can the Gustav be far behind?Fingers crossed it all works !

I would prefer to have some EN4 and E7 versions of the BF 109 for COD....

the E4 is already there
the E7 is almost the same with the configuration to have drop tanks

Didn't the E7 had the DB601N engine?

No it had the same DB 601 A as the previous Emils. The only Emils who got the DB 601N received the /N suffix to their designation.

Hi. The DB 601/N wasn't the dafault engine of the E-7, but – of course – it was used in E-7/N and E-4/N too.

There is no point to a "historically accurate " flight sim without an intensely immersive experience. if you have to illiminate the features ( clouds, trees, grass, shadows etc.) to actually " fly " the aircraft ,this certainly does not qualify as the " next generation" flight sim. The fact that we have neither accurately represented flying environment nor smooth uninterupted game play 16 months from COD's release is the issue.

An historically accurate flight model for a particular aircraft is never a settled issue.

Is a shame how the devs shows such lack of respect to the community who tested (and continue testing) the buggy beta patch and, one week later, they have nothing to tell us about all the bugs that we report. Not even a message saying that they took note about the bugs that we reported or something like that ....

Respect isn't given away, it has to be earned!!!

This community for shure hasn't earned any respect in view of the very outspoken comments here regarding MG or 1c.

It seems the misconception, that harsh words will gain goodwill, is still far spread.

only small number devs know and
live with it

+1

The comments of the community are only the consecuences of the continues promises broken. Nevertheless, you are mistaken in thinking that 1c and mg are in the same situation as us, the consumers. We pay for a product which they promised to deliver but clearly they not accomplished.

+1

I expect that all the Devs has been banned from posting on this forum (except for Black Six and his official statements are very guarded). No amount of provocative posts will elicite a responce. They are just annoying to the rest of the community.

My only gripe is that COD has made the original IL2 unplayable for me - which is sad because I really thought it was great in it's time. "Onward and Upward" as they say!

Cheers!

Historically accurate? In my opinion it is Impossible! Post official performance figures and there are 10 page arguments, Post pilot accounts - same thing. Post Post war testing same thing.

Do I need to mention the 100 octane fuel saga? You get the idea.

What ever figures are used someone will beat up an argument and be unhappy and this forum that ususally leads to pages of arguments.


Immersion? In early 1980's I was totally immersed in black ground and sky with green wireframe models, a few short years later I was totally immersed in a flat green landscape, and solid blue sky. As the years passed new features were added which blew the older sims out of immersion stakes.

At the moment with COD I could turn trees of completely because the detail of the landscape is just fantastic. NPE flying in COD is better than any other sim I've seen. Getting a bunch of people on team speak and flying up high is wonderful and totally immersing.

Will COD be Better when they fix the trees, clouds and other trivial problems? Yes of Course it will.

I for one am willing to give the developers the time they need to finish this work of Art.

Cheers!

I thought that 'pilot wings' on the super nintendo was a really good game.

I sometimes even got a bonus game involving penguins. It was really greeeeeat. :)

It is good you are easily amused, and are not bothered by insignificant details like clouds,weather , landscape or smooth game play.

All good things come to those who wait!

All those things you listed will either be introduced by the Developers in the current series of IL2 or if not another software house will come along eventually and give you all of it. Its just a mater of time.

And while we wait COD as it is has some highly immersive game play. Better than any other WWII Combat Flight Sim on the market. What other WWII Combat Flight sims with the scope of COD are currently in development or even being talked about? Not many!

So We can enjoy the biots we like or we can bitch an moan. Or as some people have chosen to do both! :)

But if you are doing both, how about talking about the good bits as well?

Didn't know the market for trees in video games was so demanding...they should have put "WE HAVE TREES!!" on the front of the box, bigger than the title text.

The damage models , cockpit/aircraft models are light years ahead of IL-2 1946
The landscape in COD certainly looks more appealing than the " green felt" used in 1946.Both of these should have been minimium requirements for any flight sim post 1946, would you not agree ?
The reason no other WW II flight sim titles are on the horizon is they are not a profitable venture. This makes it very unlikely another " software " house will pick up COD and finish it.
I quit flying IL-2 years ago along with the other folks I flew with.

Right under "NO CRASH TO DESK TOP as an added bonus NO FRAMERATE LOSS DURING MULTI AIRCRAFT SEQUENCE /SMOKE/ PARTICLES" to increase your immersion factor.;)

Don't you think respect is a two way street? You have to give it to get it. We all know the devs had to release the product early and didn't inform their customers of what was missing....bad start. Their communications have been vague at best ever since. I think somehow we would survive if COD didn't pan out. On the other hand, they need our respect because they need us to be happy customers that spend more money on their next products.


Without our cash, they will be out of work with "programmer for COD" on their resume' in a tough job market. Technically they need us more than the reverse IMO.

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They were triggered by misleading promises,is how i see it...

So true, but wait for the usual suspects to jump on it and try to belittle you.

I'd hate to dissapoint so here goes....

isn't this the the glaring and obvious reason why there is no reason to doubt they are doing all they can to get this fixed? but none of this makes any obligation to pamper the more 'entitled' egos here with grovelling and humble appologies from the devs.

More likely by the publisher, and maybe team members that no longer work there, so again, tell me how bashing this new team gets you anywhere?

You would think so. And yet, here we are on a message board packed with people who don't seem to understand that simple concept...

Only one more thing ... guys from the "north" ... maybe you are in summer, but we in the southern hemisphere are in winter so stop with that "Get outside, is summer" bulls%$t please. Thanks

So you agree with the devs "mushroom" policy towards their customers? I would think most of us would just like some honesty for a change. Don't tell us it will be 3 days for the trees, 3 days for the clouds, etc. and then clam up when you don't deliver without any explanation. It's "tell em' what they want to hear" and then put on the cone of silence when that time passes. If it's going to take another 6 months for the patch...that's fine. Just tell us and be honest.

Or they'll just continue to work on the game...

speaking of honesty... Force 10, where did you get "3 days ~" from??

LOL! Seriously? Umm...ok...It's pretty much common knowledge for those that read the update threads. Pretty soon the "two weeks" joke will be replaced with "3 days".

try again... where did your quoted "3 days ~" come from?

It was in one of his threads/posts with regard to a previous 'update', so many have been posted though it would be nigh on impossible to highlight it

From BlackSix On May 8th


I suppose now you won't take back calling me a liar and just change the subject?

Had a math teacher who said that several meant 3 or more. I still reckon 'few' means three, so I tend to agree that this statement means three days each. Definitely isn't a couple, which would mean two.

Actually, it says " a few extra days"... I don't see your "3 days" at all






"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few," Churchill - 20th August, 1940

It certainly wasn't three owed...

Pedantic or what, date of original post May 8th, so either way (be it 3 or a few days) there is/was no indication anything was sorted, just switched off.

even Kristorf (yes, that was a good movie) agrees....

Far from agreeing with you, it was directed at you, you are splitting hairs with your all encompassing devotion

Unfortunately, one has to be a bit pedantic, when there are complete idiots out there who would quite happily miscontrue (and repeated on by others) "send reinforcements" into "send three and fourpence"

Now, what's the problem Kristorf (and others)? you don't like being criticized??

So then, let me get this right.
People who don't agree with you, critisize this unfinished/broken sim or word things slightly differant are idiots?

As for being critisized, if its justified, no problem, if its for the sake of it, yes.

Won't go any further or the Infractions could read 2, or banned.

Wording things things slightly differently is an inherent problem and can quite easily lead to what was originally said meaning something else entirely, Kristorf... what's that I asked - you don't like being criticized?? your response to that is, what exactly? Well lets have a go at wording things slightly differently, shal we?

Kristorf said "As for being critisized, if its justified, no problem, if its for the sake of it, yes." I take that to mean; "Kristorf says it is okay to criticize when Kristorf is doing the criticizing, but Kristorf doesn't like it when Kristorf is being criticized".

Thought the answer was clear, but I will post it a bit larger just in case your eyesight is failing...

"As for being critisized, if its justified,(I have) no problem, if its for the sake of it, yes(I have a problem)".

The bracketed parts I have added so as to be in context as its not in whole answer to a previos question and as you edited your original post

ooo errr, who's being pedantic now? come on lad, there's no need to shout

**Going no further with this one as it may get personel, so post away mate, you won't get an answer from me unless you go to far (in my opinion)**

Walking a thin line gents! :roll:

Personally speaking, if a friend said that he would have something for me in 'a few days' I would tend to interpret that as two days (maybe three if I was feeling generous).

Not that it all matters in the overall scheme of things, but the last page or so of this thread demonstrates fairly well why I'm trying to avoid coming here so often.

If I was to reply with my real reaction to the pedantic BS displayed previously i'd certainly be facing a ban.

Patience is a virtue and one well worth the aquiring, Grasshopper

Wick , is this you?

A 'think line'????

sorry, no its not :confused:

What is it we are " patiently " wait for ?
If you are basing your assumption, progress is being made, because the developers say they are working on it, actions always speak louder than words.
Most likely they are working on,being acquired by an interested party. This would be very encouraging for the future of COD.

Don't crush the devs with badness, they will eventually not want to come here, or make anymore updates and abandon the whole thing?

to get clod how we all want, inc the devs, we need to keep optimistic that they will not only fix problems with clod, but give us new stuff BoM?

and once all settled and everyone is happy a brand spanking new EAW
with B17's and 262's and all the trimmings, for the next 5 years of ww2 combat goodness.

my clod don't even work, I haven't played it for over six months and I still have confidence it'll get sorted someday, I knew about the problems before I bought into it.

to the devs ,keep up the good work, it must be mind numbing poring over the same old s*** day in day out?

ps: any progress on windows 8 compatibility, because it's the game not windows :)

I see we get no patch, instead a bunch of bogus pictures of an IL-2 maneuvering like a fighter... no doubt its Flight Model will be complete nonsense, like the flight models in BoB.

Sorry, doesn't make it as far as I'm concerned, won't be buying BoM until CoD is fixed.

Thanks B6:)

What doesnt make sense? That the didnt publish a patch today cuz it wasnt ready, did you mommy feed you dinner before it was ready just because you cried you were hungry?

And they already stated that they want to fix CoD before releasing anything else, its been stated by them, but thanks for pointing that out for the 1 millionth time.. I think you are eligible for a prize now...