The point of a forum is so people can discuss things, and like any conversation it evolves. Without active threads a forum is utterly useless.

The quickest way to make a forum lose readers is to over-moderate it. As long as people are reasonably civil then what's the problem?

I am not talking about the entire forum, just these update posts which are supposed to be informative, instead they turn into pissing matches... filled with BS, like our current exchange... nothing to do with the game or the update from the original post.

Thats it and eventually posting in an old patch thread makes you responsible for kicking off some kind of "psychopathic tide" of ppl seeing a bolded thread with the word "patch" in it. BTW is the ban of foo.bar still active? :rolleyes:

Well, he was banned around 27. April, after some [sarcasm: ON] "never-reading-posts-complete"-guys [sacrasm: OFF] get a little bit overboard. So I fear we wouldn't see him until end of the month.:(

OK... Let me see... where is the link to download the patch... umhhh... ok, no link... see you again in a few months... bye.

Most of the times it's not only what the subject is, but how it is discussed: in a series of personal arguments between a handful of people on long entrenched sides and going off to totally irrelevant tangents.

This usually involves questions about what happened during development, along with each involved user adding his personal speculation.

I don't have to tell you that what happened in the past is off topic in a thread where the main subject is future developments ;)

The problem usually is that someone might jump in this thread for a quick look, searching for information expected by the headline and see 2-3 guys discussing a totally irrelevant thing. He will scroll up and still no clue. He will go a few pages back, still no luck. His lunch break is almost over now though, so he will just quickly post a one-liner question that is probably already posted and answered, but is buried among the avalanche of private conversations that are discussed in a public announcement thread. In each update thread, maybe a 10% of the posts is actually the informative part. The rest is just general discussion, for which we have a perfectly valid general discussion section where everyone can open their own thread.

To sum it up, this is a place for asking and answering questions, or already finding your question answered if someone else asked/answered it before. Well, good luck with that, when the Q&A constitutes maybe 30 posts scattered within 30 pages. The content that actually servers its purpose in these threads tends to be less than 10 pages or so and that is if we're lucky :-P

It's the equivalent of going to the pub and trying to talk as loud as i can, so that the people sitting on every single table and on the bar are listening to what i'm saying and can't carry on with their own conversation. On purpose. Week after week.

If i did this in a pub, i would be told to keep it down and after a while i might be thrown out, don't you think so? ;)

The rest of the general forum section is free of this constraint. It's ok to start a subject and see where it goes, as long as (like you correctly pointed out) people remain civil.

Update, bug report and suggestion threads are not like this however. They are either a questions and answers affair, or a situation where we post in a specific way to make information easy to access. Think of it less as a discussion and more like an information directory, say like the yellow pages.

If things start evolving into a different discussion, we are encouraged to open new threads and separate the general discussion from the specific information.

I really don't get why people don't make use of the freedom they are given to start new threads. If you have your own thread you can even request help to keep it within a certain topic. Instead, everyone prefers to just derail this tiny minority of three thread types that should be in a specific posting style and as a result, make it harder for everyone to find what they are looking for. I really don't get it. :confused:

I get it.
 

The reason everyone posts in here is because anyone and everyone who cares like me, is reading, re-reading, and re-reading again the Friday update posts hoping, wishing, praying that this will be a playable game one day. How would I reply to your comment without posting it here? Start a new thread and hope you read it? Illogical, Spock would say.

I believe you just made his point ;)

(perhaps so did I)

Me too lol

tbh most people only look at the first few pages when finding out patch news, because B6 will only respond a couple of times then we get nothing. It's only us desperate fools who keep looking :rolleyes:

+1

"Find all posts by ...."
 

Left click over the Member´s Nick of your choice.
This can be done in any post that Member has done.
A context menu will open.
Take the option:
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A search page will open showing all the posts made by that forum member starting from the newest.

Salutes.

The amount of time it is taking on this patch you could have developed and released a new game....

This really is taking too long. This was in the works since before December and here we are now in June still waiting for a game we can at least feel is complete. I am utterly amazed at what an unfinished state this game was in at release and whilst I fully appreciate the work on the patch this really is an incredibly poor state of affairs.

Ridiculous.

Agree HamishUK. Okay its Friday in Aus, I wonder how much BS is going to come from BS about the ummm whats its called again, thats it a patch.

Also looking forward to the new BS from BS :)

F5 f5 f5 f5 f5 :)

Why

Cause he is anxious about an update about the update (about the update)

Lol, I gave up that silly business 6 months ago :)

Yep, the only patch there be will be a patch to the information about the update.
It will be BULL 0. 315 as it is only Alpha of coarse.

Sorry couldn’t resist.

Prove me wrong guys.

I'm guessing, we'll get the fabled "final patch" when MG releases the sequel. Until then, again I'm guessing, all we'll get will be placebo after placebo, that is of course if there'll be still subjects around willing to take more of nothing, save for a few apparently pathological cases.

You mean the sequel is the patch like Harry is a horcrux ? :)

Just check out the June 22 update (B6 just post it a few moments ago). Why am I not surprised :grin:

Yep, next friday we will see the white flag of Dover or something like we would to but can´t release the patch because we didnt announce the sequel yet. Great moments of theater we have here.

i think the devs should go back to modding. You might make a damn good mod for DCS if you get your cards in order. professional quality payware mod for dcs with standards dictated by another source. what better design remit could there be for a clearly struggling flightsimming development company seeking a product to full fill a communites appetite.

seriously, you might actually make some money over on that side of flightsimming in a more unique way, and i as a customer could be assured of the quality i desire. i realise this sounds offensive, it initially might have been but seriously its not. its actually a viable source for you guys to do somthing of great quality work with income. and it could prove to be more beneficial for your company name in general. the facts or reality is that not many around here are getting what they desire and it works both ways, un-desirable feedback is naturally un-desirable. surely those in the face of the feedback must want to change that. and thats simply enough said on that. so please dont take it as an insult, make your mark on the flightsimming world in another way. its just another idea. and to appease the situation somewhat i must say i cant think of a better developed mod in the ww2 realms as one from you guys. so whilst i may appear to be insulting your company. dont look a gift horse in the mouth is a saying we have here. and a group like yours has many many options outwith your own monkey sphere (loosly termed).