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swiss 06-14-2012 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 434936)
Note that the first statement is counterintuitive; most of us would assume that friction does depend upon the cross-sectional area.

So what?
Yes it sounds odd, then again everybody can prover it in their own apartment.

btw: Are you ready yet for another wormhole dogfight(WDF2.0)?

raaaid 06-15-2012 10:26 AM

oh come on then why racing cars use such a big tyres

even outlaw agrees friction is surface dependant contrary to what the science geniouses said

Amontons' First Law: The force of friction is directly proportional to the applied load.
Amontons' Second Law: The force of friction is independent of the apparent area of contact.
Coulomb's Law of Friction: Kinetic friction is independent of the sliding velocity.

only thie 1st is true

swiss 06-15-2012 10:45 AM

need help?

ATAG_Bliss 06-15-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 435108)
oh come on then why racing cars use such a big tyres

even outlaw agrees friction is surface dependant contrary to what the science geniouses said

Amontons' First Law: The force of friction is directly proportional to the applied load.
Amontons' Second Law: The force of friction is independent of the apparent area of contact.
Coulomb's Law of Friction: Kinetic friction is independent of the sliding velocity.

only thie 1st is true

Race cars have wide tires so you can do this: http://vimeo.com/5558243

Edit: I like this one as well ;)

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3...ondacantdo.jpg

raaaid 06-15-2012 11:10 AM

well the discussions open what i dont know is how outlaws gonna feel by my side :)

cyclist use litle contact surface

put a ciclyst with a car tyres and tell me friction is independent of contact surface

traction is friction dependant, friction is NOT surface depnedant

TRACTION IS NOT SURFACE DEPENDANT

do you spot the lie?

ATAG_Bliss 06-15-2012 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 435124)
well the discussions open what i dont know is how outlaws gonna feel by my side :)

cyclist use litle contact surface

put a ciclyst with a car tyres and tell me friction is independent of contact surface

Now go put a small block v8 on that bicycle and tell me what those little tires do? (They'll spin :) )

In simple layman's terms, you use the right tire for how much power you have if your main goal is to accelerate. Bicyclist can spin the tires as well ( a human) but they aren't going to spin those tires once up to speed no matter how hard they cycle.

raaaid 06-15-2012 02:08 PM

well outlaw how do you explain mostly all net saying friction independent of contact area if we know both is false?

creating all kind of propaganda about fake tyre properties

this backs up the staged world theory

einstein proof of relativity is totally flawed by atmospheric refraction

this backs up the staged world theory

and the last and best i have seen nobody refudiating my best proof that the world is staged:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Oh3qEVgBQ

you will understand if nobody refudiates this reasonably ill conclude the worlds so staged the sky is a dome as lunar eclipses PROOF

edit:

yesterday on tv i watched two odd things:

20 photographs on the how it was made step by step by gaugin certain picture

i asked my mom: how did they made the pictures?

also watched johny deep showing himself as an utter morom in front of two guys who were joking on how twiter was limited to 140 words

we are all criminals, and the stagers are our gurdians, and the worst mob rules the prison with time travel, like they had any real power

Hood 06-15-2012 04:23 PM

Drafted a post but just couldn't be bothered to finish it off.

Hood

ATAG_Doc 06-15-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 435124)
well the discussions open what i dont know is how outlaws gonna feel by my side :)

cyclist use litle contact surface

put a ciclyst with a car tyres and tell me friction is independent of contact surface

traction is friction dependant, friction is NOT surface depnedant

TRACTION IS NOT SURFACE DEPENDANT

do you spot the lie?

You sure have a thing about contact surfaces and friction.

raaaid 06-15-2012 04:49 PM

there are some incidents in my region with the miners

today they were portraited ADVANCING slowly against the police as reconquerers of the muslims

wtf ive been watching it for 28 days and EXACTLY the day i think of the miner shields i had read about they appear on tv WITH THOSE SHIELDS

well the theory that witholds best is that im inmune to tt, something in the genes, shared by my family

it could just be due to one of my descendantds discovering the tm, that would certainly make me and all my family inmune to it

YOU CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING WITH TT EXCEPT THE THING YOU WANT TO CHANGE

gotta love nature sense of humour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rtL7...eOzPbniEw3BIRg

i wonder if hell ever know...

edit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDXus...eature=related

do you know why johny deep is named tim allen there?

cause tim allen is johny deep from another timeline ;)

fiction is real and "reality" false

Outlaw 06-15-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 435108)
oh come on then why racing cars use such a big tyres

even outlaw agrees friction is surface dependant contrary to what the science geniouses said

How is it you claim to be such a genius free thinker yet you can't understand what I have said.

The sliding friction equation you quote makes some assumptions. Within those assumptions the friction force is independent of surface area. In other words (which you are likely incapable of understanding), within the context of that definition of sliding friction, it is correct to make such a statement.

In real world application it is often the case that those assumptions are not met. In those cases a bit of care and judgement must be exercised before using the equation.

It can't be made any simpler than that.

As far as rolling resistance goes, the definition clearly makes the assumption that there is a single point of contact. Everyone knows (except, possibly, those people that believe Google ranks searches based on traffic) that it is impossible to have a single point of contact.

So, arguing that you are being lied to about rolling friction is as far from intelligent as you can get because even a lump of broken concrete can understand the above assumption.

That does not mean that the rolling friction concept is not useful (just as the sliding friction concept is useful). It simply means that it must be used within the assumptions that are part of its definition. Outside those assumptions the aforementioned care and judgement must, once again, be brought into play.

--Outlaw.

swiss 06-15-2012 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 435173)

also watched johny deep showing himself as an utter morom in front of two guys who were joking on


Johnny - who?!
Sounds like a pornstar.


Quote:


do you know why johny deep is named tim allen there?

cause tim allen is johny deep from another timeline

fiction is real and "reality" false
If I sent you a 9mm bullet, would this, in any way, accelerate the process?

Outlaw 06-16-2012 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 435252)
YOU CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING WITH TT EXCEPT THE THING YOU WANT TO CHANGE

If time travel is possible (ie, jumping around in time, not the real type of time travel that does exist), then I actually agree with the above.


Which brings up a point...

You claim that time traveler's are willfully changing things to drive you crazy so if they can't change what they want to change then how are they so successful?

--Outlaw.

PS
Since you have failed to admit that you are wrong about Google rankings being based on traffic, I am expecting you to rescind all of your previous statements that you always admit when you are wrong. This will, at least, allow you to continue to state that you have not been caught lying.

Note that, just for the record, I think you lie all the time.

raaaid 06-16-2012 12:40 PM

"How is it you claim to be such a genius free thinker yet you can't understand what I have said"

to my question is force of friction surface dependant?

your answer: yes

now knowing what the authorities say....

a sophist like you must hate really bad twitter limitation to 140 chars

"You claim that time traveler's are willfully changing things to drive you crazy so if they can't change what they want to change then how are they so successful?"



succesfull who said they are succesfull they are the definition of insanity keep trying and trying a thing that doesnt work i have no the slightest fear for them

i was wrong on traffic bein the only reason for relevance are you happy now?

still this thread is hhighly RELEVANT for whatever reason

"Note that, just for the record, I think you lie all the time."

if you cant back it up thats an ugly thing to say

edit:

they change the future by try and fail, tghay change it all and expect its good for them, they are the definition of insanity

imagine how crazy can you go when nearly all people is doing this to you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyu1KKwC74

edit:

substitute racism for hate to the bad people and you get portrait perfectly whats going on here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i9iTYe6tEk

edit:

check whats wrong with this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY

voices are doubled as you can tell by the lips

i think: MAYBE that was real obtained with tt

you think: CERTAINLY those are actors

edit:

well never mind the guy nitting a skull brings it down i guess

but i have the feeling fiction is more real than the news

edit:

all right if you find this thought anywhere in the net I WILL POST NO MORE FOR A MONTH:

fictions like movies or books are real the news are false

hollywood time travels and films, the news are just a green screen distraction

the reason why stars are stars is that they have highly charismatic personality in most timelines

edit:

wait no no this contradicts the johny deep video

stars are stars cause they forged their destiny as a forger forges money

yeah this fits better the data

the only sense and motif to be of this world is as A FICTION enterteinment

edit:

now i am drunk ill say it:

THE WORLD IS PERFECT BUT ITS STAGED TO LOOK HORIBLE SO WE HATE GOD

and yes i have proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYieVwIWmmo

do you believe that bs that the sirinas are using babies as human shield?

the world is built to corrupt us and getting us to hate to take us to the dark side


aeons and aaeons passed by and the black hart from the spanish prime minister some aeons ago was of stone now he ahs a human heart, i can tell those things by looking to the eys

this shows obliteration useless and unfair

swiss 06-17-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 435440)
do you believe that bs that the sirinas are using babies as human shield?

Depends what you want to achieve:

- keep someone from bombing you: works
- use them as flak jackets: no worky, they are to small

Now, imagine your country was invaded and you joined the resistance.
Given the fact bombings in the big towns of the aggressor usually work pretty well - why not consider to blow away the newborn nursery of the bigger hospitals?
Rather unfair, as you hit the only truly innocent ones, but you get maximum impact...

JG52Krupi 06-17-2012 11:47 AM

Seriously do you guys have to keep feeding the troll?

http://austrianeconomists.typepad.co...0ea5170970c-pi

raaaid 06-17-2012 01:43 PM

do you know who trully rules the world and points to anarchy as the true best system?

http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress...sible-hand.jpg

the hand that stopped abrahams hand from violating the laws of the universe

edit:

also outlaw i understand perfectly what you mean by lier:

in the world of the one eyed where im blind what if im actually lying and have a perfect steroscopic sight

enjoy the thought then i suppose your victory is up to where real paradox is caused by me or im just another tt playing with a tim allen

edit:

and why would an utter moron like johny depp forge his destiny

he is a baddie who wants to be loved by the people, i guess just that brings good energy

ACE-OF-ACES 06-17-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 435440)
yet you can't understand what I have said

I would point out the irony of this statment.. but at this point I don't think anyone needs it pointed out! ;)

raaaid 06-17-2012 06:44 PM

well like i was saying anything new:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTVmYyk5ro

and to expose the wrold turning around me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFhRowkNrTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic

swiss 06-17-2012 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 435631)
and why would an utter moron like johny depp forge his destiny

he is a baddie who wants to be loved by the people, i guess just that brings good energy

Moron? "Baddie".

From my point of view you are nothing but a pile of genetic decay which leeches society.
You go to university(not sure if thats even true) and you get psycho treatment - for both most likely the society pays. Yet you feel unable to work.
What even makes you think have the right to waste energy to post all that bs on the net? You don't.

raaaid 06-17-2012 07:56 PM

hey yeah i admit im a parasite

i wonder wow long does it take to get the swiis nationalitation

being european i could go there and eventually get 1300 euros sleeping all day ;)

dont worry for the standars my family is rich

im upper class all my life will be financed by my folks, i even have a house

i have it in the veins, the lazyness one of my ancestros was sister of an spanish king and my greatgreat grandfather was the sir of certain region

my aunt says i look like this guys far awy we could be relatives

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JeFYEgMKsc...ier_centro.jpg


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