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Chromius 04-17-2012 08:19 PM

LOL. Someone needs a lobotomy.

Clod was released and still is BROKEN. It is not a PC issue.

furbs 04-17-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 410458)
Well seems like eveyone is confused.. So allow me to clear this up

First things first

furbs stated that 99% of the people were experancing CTD

Which is NOT true

Based on posts in this very forum we know for a fact that some never experanced a CTD, and other only experanced them a few times

What that means is the CTD is very PC depended.

Just to be crystal, I am NOT saying the CTD is NOT a CoD bug, never have, never will! All I am pointing out is that it is PC depended.

And clearly I am in good company, because even BS went as far as to note that they are not experancing any CTD on 'thier' PCs. Which is another way of saying, we don't have every kind of PC combination out there at our disposale to beta test on, thus there is a slight chance that some people may still experance CTDs post patch. Why else would BS qualify the statment by saying 'on our PCs'?

Hope that helps!

S!

ACE i have no idea what percentage of people have CTD's, i pulled the number out of my bum.

I was trying to get across the majority of people are experiencing CTD's online just like the testers, i wanted to know if they tested the patch online which they have.
They say post patch that they have fixed the CTD's on their PC's which says to me the CTD was software related, now lets hope when they release the patch its them same for the majority of us.

ATAG_Doc 04-17-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 410459)
b i n g o!!

Ace this is your favorite reply isn't it? I'm sure I can find a dozen times you said BINGO for your answer. lol One more time please?

Tree_UK 04-17-2012 08:26 PM

It does beg the question if they tested the orignal release on any PC's at all?? :grin:

ACE-OF-ACES 04-17-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 410469)
ACE i have no idea what percentage of people have CTD's, i pulled the number out of my bum.

Agreed 100%

Which was my point from the get go! Glad to see your up to speed 'now'

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 410469)
I was trying to get across the majority of people are experiencing CTD's onlie just like the testers, i wanted to know if they tested the patch online which they have.

Just to be crystal, I don't think there is enough data to even say 'most'.

But based on past posts in this forum I would admit it apears to be about 2/3s do and 1/3 dont.

But we have to keep in mind that not everyone that owns CoD posts in this forum, thus even that is a skewed value.

Add to that the FACT that your poll on this subject was LOCKED becase of a few guys trying to promote the 100% CTD case were caught using multi handles to vote mult time and that number becomse even more worthlesss

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 410469)
They say post patch that they have fixed the CTD's on their PC's which says to me the CTD was software related,

Note I never said it was not software related! All I ever said is it is PC depended! Put another way, some PCs are more supseptable to the software bug than others.

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 410469)
now lets hope when they release the patch its them same for the majority of us.

Fingers Crossed!

S!

addman 04-17-2012 08:29 PM

I'm just trying to push the pre-patch euphoria down to realistic levels here, imagine the anti-climax when some people still are experience regular CTD's after the patch. As B6 and luthier themselves said in the update:

Finally, we need to mention the launcher.exe crashes. This was a very hard issue to address as it wasn't caused by a single 100% reproducible bug, but rather rare combinations of various uncommon events.

It wasn't a single bug that they could just locate and squash with a couple of lines of code but by re-writing the engine and optimizing it they have probably minimized the chance of CTD's to a ridiculously low level. I'm sure someone will still have a CTD or two after the patch but they will most likely be a lot less frequent and a lot less common.

P.S There never was a CTD bug, the whole game engine was the bug.

ACE-OF-ACES 04-17-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc (Post 410470)
Ace this is your favorite reply isn't it? I'm sure I can find a dozen times you said BINGO for your answer. lol One more time please?

bingo

Insuber 04-17-2012 08:33 PM

You are like flies in a spider's net ... lol!

David Hayward 04-17-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 410471)
It does beg the question if they tested the orignal release on any PC's at all?? :grin:

No, they tested on Etch A Sketches. Frame rates were a little slow, but they released it anyways.

ACE-OF-ACES 04-17-2012 08:34 PM

PS would this be a bad time to point out that me.. the so called fanboy is pointing out that 1C may still have CTD issues post patch?

Which pretty much debunks anyone who ever thought of me as a fanboy! In that a true fanboy would be saying the following..

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanboy
Guys, I now 1C has released paches in the past that had bugs in them, but, this is a new day and there is no chance what so ever they would release a patch with a bug in it! They said they tested this one.. I know I know they said they tested the past patches too.. and we still recived a bug, but this time is different!! Everyone I am telling you this patch will be different

Huh.. kind of sounds like furbs last post? So is it safe to say furbs is a fanboy now? ;)

addman 04-17-2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 410476)
You are like flies in a spider's net ... lol!

Yeah, I know, I'm a bit embarrassed really but I just know how this whole forum will just explode in whining after the beta patch is released and just one person gets a CTD, OMG it's so predictable it's not even funny.

ACE-OF-ACES 04-17-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman (Post 410473)
I'm just trying to push the pre-patch euphoria down to realistic levels here, imagine the anti-climax when some people still are experience regular CTD's after the patch.

Join the club! ;)

Oh wait.. for ATAG_Doc I mean bingo!

Force10 04-17-2012 08:35 PM

Just curious Ace, are you saying a memory leak in the code will affect only certain hardware configurations? Memory leaks in software code generally affect 100% of the users. The "1/3rd" of the folks that don't experience CTD's as you say, might have 16gigs of ram and restart their game after every mission. That doesn't mean that their isn't a leak in the code on those 1/3rd, it just means they haven't run the game in one session long enough.

furbs 04-17-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman (Post 410473)
I'm just trying to push the pre-patch euphoria down to realistic levels here, imagine the anti-climax when some people still are experience regular CTD's after the patch. As B6 and luthier themselves said in the update:

Finally, we need to mention the launcher.exe crashes. This was a very hard issue to address as it wasn't caused by a single 100% reproducible bug, but rather rare combinations of various uncommon events.

It wasn't a single bug that they could just locate and squash with a couple of lines of code but by re-writing the engine and optimizing it they have probably minimized the chance of CTD's to a ridiculously low level. I'm sure someone will still have a CTD or two after the patch but they will most likely be a lot less frequent and a lot less common.

P.S There never was a CTD bug, the whole game engine was the bug.

Yep agreed, Not PC dependent.

All games sometimes CTD, i just hope it goes back to a rare event.

ACE-OF-ACES 04-17-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman (Post 410480)
Yeah, I know, I'm a bit embarrassed really but I just know how this whole forum will just explode in whining after the beta patch is released and just one person gets a CTD, OMG it's so predictable it's not even funny.

exactally!

Oh wait, for ATAG_Doc I mean bingo!

David Hayward 04-17-2012 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 410483)
Yep agreed, Not PC dependent.

I have no idea how you got that from his post.

rather rare combinations of various uncommon events

That could easily include PC configuration.

addman 04-17-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 410483)
Yep agreed, Not PC dependent.

All games sometimes CTD, i just hope it goes back to a rare event.

Right Furbs! that's what I'm trying to say. I've had CTD's -both often and sometimes just once- in so many other PC games I can't remember them all. CTD's are almost never caused by a single bug, it's as luthier said, a combination of many complex events and that's why it's hard to cure.

In fact, I'd like to tell about a typical example. It's about the game Farcry 2, I used to play that game to bits a couple of years ago and after almost exactly 50 minutes during each session the game crashed, EVERY TIME. The problem was a memory leak that was claimed to be fixed in a patch but never was.

furbs 04-17-2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 410485)
I have no idea how you got that from his post.

rather rare combinations of various uncommon events

That could easily include PC configuration.

It could yes, but they dont expect people to change thier PC's do they?
They fix the code.

David, i didn't get the CTD online before the last patch, then after i did.

GOA_Potenz 04-17-2012 08:53 PM

Ace of aces when you see the flash SMILE!!!
http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...a-12060898.jpg

hope somebody do this IRL

David Hayward 04-17-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 410490)
It could yes, but they dont expect people to change thier PC's do they?
They fix the code.

Sorry, but this is gibberish.

Falstaff 04-17-2012 08:59 PM

David Hayward said:

>>Sorry, but this is gibberish. <<

You'll feel right at home then. Picking another meaningless fight?

Small dot at 12 o'clock. Growing larger. Has wings. Must be an argument on the horizon. Must be a Hayward, flaps stuck.

You really (ought to) take some beating.

DroopSnoot 04-17-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 410485)
I have no idea how you got that from his post.

rather rare combinations of various uncommon events

That could easily include PC configuration.

Luthiers original statement insinuates there is more than 1 major reason CDT in the way of :

CDT's with this game are not "rare combinations of various uncommon events" beacuse our CDT (that keeps being refered to) has been reproduced many times and highlighted many times by users in this thread alone.

Meaning we have more than one reason for CDT happening.

Now, you lot are arguing over the wrong things yet again:

The CDT we know is solved, why? simple, because of the above statement alone shows that the users knew the CDT happening with a rough idea and were able to stave off that CDT by doing various things, If we knew it I'm certain the Devs figured that out and fixed it.


The CDT they are refering to is probably a different one that was very hard to reproduce but luckily hasnt happened so far on their systems.

To be fair lets hope it does happen on the beta so we can flag it and they can fix it.

Oh yeah and stop behaving like a bunch of fools each fighting their case like it is actually going to change anything. If we get CDT we get CDT thats what BETA's are all about.

David Hayward 04-17-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falstaff (Post 410501)
You really (ought to) take some beating.

It's a game, tough guy.

furbs 04-17-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 410495)
Sorry, but this is gibberish.

Exsample...

If developers release a patch for their game and that patch cause's CTD with Nvidia 580's, is the problem the patch or people's 580's?

Do they fix the code or tell people to change to ATI?

ACE-OF-ACES 04-17-2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz (Post 410494)
Ace of aces when you see the flash SMILE!!!
http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...a-12060898.jpg

hope somebody do this IRL

Yawn..

Well as a card carring concealed handgun licensed person

You better hope your aim is true because you will not get off a 2nd round before I return fire

Falstaff 04-17-2012 09:10 PM

Hayward said:

>>It's a game, tough guy. <<

Only if you're deliberately idiotic or childish enough to make everything into one, in a kind of frustrated-call-centre-worker-mentality sort of way.

Try some civility, for once, my ickle schnuggems...

KG26_Alpha 04-17-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz (Post 410494)
Ace of aces when you see the flash SMILE!!!
http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...a-12060898.jpg

hope somebody do this IRL



Ok the wishing someones dead is the final straw in here.





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