As a matter of fact every! german plane leaving the production line was tested to meet the standards before it was delivered to the Luftwaffe.

Any plane not meeting the tolerances was sent back for refurbishing.

I believe the procedure became more lax in 1945, though.

I also believe that the allies had something similar.

Negative - I fly at high alt very often and I am able to see contacts very low below with no problem. I find the contact recognition in CloD quite amazing as often, yoo only see what is a glass reflection and even at long distance, you can see if it's RAF camouflage or a 109.

Very often I can observe dogfights on the sea level while I am flying at 17-20k. It takes a while to get used to it, it certainly is different (and better) than 1946 but once you adapt, I'd say the depiction of distance and depth is very good in this sim.

Regarding coordination on ATAG - I disagree strongly, but it very much depends when and with whom you're flying I guess.

Of course, robtek. But still, the tolerance for max speed at sea level for Bf 109E was 500kim/h +- 5%. That means that anything between 475 - 525km/h would do and they'd be concerned about that MINIUS more than a plus. :grin: Every aircraft delivered to the customer (air force) would be tested before accepting it, that's for sure.

Re. the contact recognition, which resolution are you using? At 1920x1200 I can't spot contacts from medium distance, and I often experience the disappearance of planes when approaching at certain angles.

Ins

I have seen teamwork like this many many times. The Blenheim jockeys are quite often flying in formations of 3 or 4 and sometimes with fighter escort. Rest assured that the Blue team would be doing this if it were possible.

As it stands right now, flying even two Blue bombers together will cause someone's launcher to crash long before they make it to target. Once we get the patch you'll see human piloted Ju-88 and He-111 formations of 4 or more all the time.

S!

Same here, great difficulties seeing contacts at 1920x1080. Another strange thing in the game are ground targets. For example on ATAG I could see where the tank formations etc. were BEFORE the higher resolution terrain is drawn. The stick out like black dots on the ground. And this is from any altitude, not tied to distance.

Yeah, tell us your settings because this is CERTAINLY not the case for me.

I am using native res of 1680*1020 on a ''22 screen, all settings maxed up except for texture size on 'high'. I often watch dogfights on the deck and I am not bothered to dive in as it's too low. I was also struggling to see the contacts when I switched to CloD from Il-2 Sturmovik but somehow I got used to how the game works and I appreciate how they modelled this important side of the sim. Often you only see flick of the canopy shine in the sun. Even at rather great distance, you can see the black spinner of a RAF fighter or the yellow nose or the two engines of a 110. Cool feature imho. Flying at the French coast, I can see the 109 climbing feet wet as a distinctive dot while I am cruising at 15-20k as I said. If there is a dogfight down below, I can see dots clearly and the turning one are RAF, climbing ones are 109s. I also appreciate that you're not able to see tracers from like 250miles sway.




Coming closer though, I also experience what Insuber is describing and LODS are a bit weird at certain angles.

Same for what Flanker35 says - ground targets or map markers visible from miles away.

Other thing I find cool is how the light is breaking through the glass and how the glass of various thickness reflects and changes light, e.g. looking at a 109 through the armoured windshield and voila - the enemy is hard to see against the sea (I am diving on him obviously) and / or through the whitish propeller disc if I have the sun behind me. I need to steer away so he's in my small window otherwise I can barely see him in certail light conditions. This seems extremely realistic and I like it very much.

Add that flak guns can be seen *through* the terrain as black dots ...

Thank you for the answer. I enjoy too the rendering of objects through the canopy and windshield, where light refraction plays a role in contacts visualization.
But "dots" aren't visible against ground in my 26" monitor, 1920x1200, from 3000 m.

Cheers,
Insuber

I'm going to put this one down to the vast amount of crap on my monitor ;)

Robo consistently calls out contacts ahead of me.

Ahh, attacking "dots" that turn out to be dirt on the monitor :)

I beleave some of that has something to do with Vsync also?
I noticed if you get in that invisable texture zone and move your head look left and right fast you can pick them up again.

S!

Just fingers crossed this will be fixed in the patch as it really makes flying dull. Now you use more time squinting for dots than for proper CEM.