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I am using the 8.95 RC. Found at GuruD..and now off to test :)

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Did quick run on the weather missions, results below..System in signature.

Storm: min/max/avg 19/62/45FPS
Overcast with breaks: 32/63/50FPS
Cumulus: 58/63/60FPS

Black Death: 10/68/46FPS

Flanker, could you edit the thunderstorm in the FMB and test what is the biggest radius you can assign to it and still having good/fluid FPS's. Thank you in advance 8-)

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I am a n00b with the FMB, but can try :D It seems the lowest FPS comes when you go below the clouds, not so much above them. I had no stutter, it was quite smooth except you could feel the low FPS.

Will run more tests to get more consistent results. The Black Death is not IMHO a good measure of performance as it has graphical glitches I never see in game, like flickering explosions, the strange smoke "streak" from the fallen Me110C, flickering cloud shadows etc. My guess is that as it is made with another version of the game it does not work proper on newre ones, same could be seen on IL-2 BD track.

Thanks m8, you only need to open the mission in FMB, you'll se a cloud icon, select, right click for properties and edit the radius. I just want to check if the card can stand clouds as far as sight can reach.

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Ok, thanks for the tip! Will check it tomorrow, getting a bit late now and work awaits :(

So those are the 12.3 preview drivers I think. What were the drivers you were using when you first made your Black Death Benchmarks?

Thanks

JD
AKA_MattE

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I used the drivers that came upon launch of the card.

Did you notice a change with the new 12.3/8.95 drivers? Reason I ask is that our general system specs are not that far apart but my benchmark in the Black Death track is a lot slower (average) than yours. The card is certainly an improvement over my 5870, but I am at a loss as to why my average in the black death track is so far off of yours. I just got the card installed last night so I obviously need to tweak it a bit, I am just trying to get my head around it.

JD
AKA_MattE

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My CCC settings below, try them :) I will also set my conf.ini for comparison.

CCC

Anti-Aliasing: Use application settings, Morphological OFF, Filter at Standard
Anisotropic Filtering: Application settings
Tessellation: AMD Optimized
Catalyst AI: Performance, Surface Opti OFF
Vertical Refresh: On unless app specifies
AA Mode: Performance
OpenGL: Triple buffer Off


And the conf.ini regarding 3D..

[BOB]
EpilepsyFilter=0

[window]
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
DrawIfNotFocused=1
SaveAspect=0
Render=D3D10_0
width=1920
height=1080
posLeft=0
posTop=0
ColourBits=32
FullScreen=1
ChangeScreenRes=1
Frequency=60
StereoMode=0



[core]
RandSeed=0
TexQual=2
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
Shadows=1
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
LandShading=2
LandDetails=2
Sky=3
Forest=2
VisibilityDistance=3
LandGeom=2
DrawCollisions=1
Water=-1
Effects=1
EffFlags.Light=1
EffFlags.SpriteRender=0
Grass=3
CordEffect=1
UseFog=0
UseLandCube=1
UseLandConnectedObject=1
LinearObjectManager=1
Roads=1
Sun=1
Clouds=1
EffFlags.LightSpritesProj=1
ShadowMapSize=4
TexFlags.AsyncLoad=1
TexFlags.ShowTexture=0
SimpleMesh.SWTransform=0
SimpleMesh.QuadTreeClip=1
SimpleMesh.InstancingHW=1
EffFlags.LightContextSprites=1
CloudsFlags.Detailed=1
TexFlags.CreateHDR=1
Decals=2
EffFlags.SWLight=0
TexFlags.CockpitOnePass=0
MegaTexture=0
TexFlags.Reflection=0
RenderTargetQual=3
MSAA=0
MeshStatics=3
MeshStaticsDetail=1
SimpleMesh.QTNoCompose=0
MeshFirstLod=0
MeshShowLod=0
SpawnHumans=0
TexFlags.SSAO=0
TexFlags.VSync=1
TexFlags.FastTransparency=1

Thanks Flanker, I will work on it tonight after work.

Appreciate the help.

JD
AKA_MattE

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I hope those settings help or give an idea where to look at :) Just not fiddling so much now as the patch is around the corner so we will see how that changes the situation :D

Flanker could you answer another question for me, looking in GPU-Z when flying COD what is your GPU load?

Thanks

JD
AKA_MattE

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I think I posted it earlier in the thread, something around 40% or so average. So not very much.

Jugdriver, what is your cpu load? Flanker does have a much better cpu.

Thanks Flanker, 40% is inline with that I thought you would say. Mine is running at 25%-30% and thus my benchmarks in The Black Death are lower than yours. Well let’s hope the game optimization, and better drivers are able to make the cards work to their full potential. I at least know what a big part of the problem is; Shadows are obviously a huge hit to my CPU (even though only one core is really being taxed). I am seriously hoping that the Devs can offload the hit that shadows produce on my CPU onto my GPU which is not really working very hard.

The ironic part is that I bought an AMD CPU and AMD/ATI cards because of how AMD were touting them working together for a better gaming experience and your Intel i5 2500K is handily doing a better a better job of working with the 7970 card, DAMN MARKETING!

@ Editor, I have one core working at 80% to 95% but the other four (I run the game on five of the six cores) are cruising along at 25%, there is no doubt COD is doing a terrible (if any) job of utilizing my other cores. I was looking at benchmarks last night and most show the i5 2500K about 12% faster than my 1090T, but I also have a slight overclock to 3.4ghz (all cores) and my memory is going at 1700mhz so I would say the difference in something like 3Dmark between our two processors would be under 10%. Where the i5 2500K does crush my 1090T is in memory read/write speed, it is almost double, and even though I am not a computer engineer this obviously has something to do with its significant performance advantage, especially with regards to shadows. I guess only time will tell if COD’s optimization and improved Catalyst will allow for more of my CPU and GPU to be utilized.

JD
AKA_MattE

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Jugdriver, I went from AMD 1090T to Intel 200K not so long ago and can say that the 2500K is a real bang for the buck. Not that the AMD CPU's are bad, but Intel without doubt holds the crown at the moment. I have used both brands over the years so I have no tint in my glasses when looking at them ;) :D

If you checked my conf.ini there I did lower the shadow setting from 5 to 4 without any discernable difference in IQ but a slight bump in performance. I hope also that the new patch will help us all and soon enough the beta should come..or so we all hope :D

I could try OC my CPU but again not sure if the PSU is enough as OC sure makes Wattage go skyrocketing :D Maybe a few MHz would not hurt, just to see if it has any effect. But again the patch is close so maybe after it has been released I will get into OC..if needed at all.

Driver wise I went to 12.2 Pre-Certified ones and they are smooth ones. 8.6 ones sometimes dropped the PCIe to 1x from 16X! Not good on FPS I can tell you :D Even then there was very little stutter but sure some 30-40FPS is not playable in my eyes :D

Hi.

Flanker, your PSU is enough! You can easily overclock your 2500K to 4.5 Ghz, almost not touching the voltage adjustment. I am very ecsited to see, how much improvment you can get if you overclock you CPU on Clod. I still wait the Asus 7970DCII version of the card! Here is a link to X-Bit Labs article about power consumption and overcloking CPU. A mid-range overcloking doesnt increase the power draw much.

Karhu,

Were you able to go from 3.4 to 4.85 on stock volts?

JD
AKA_MattE

Hi Jugdriver,

I am running my 2600K at 1.320V on bios at 4.8 GHz on all cores now, HT off. When I stress the cores on Prime95, the voltages are 1.328-1.336 and temps are 68,74,77,73(Noctua D-14). When playing, the stress level to cores and temps are not so high at all! Default voltage is around 1.240. And when stressing the power draw is from 95W to 120W for CPU. The hole system power draw is about 300W whitout overcloking the GPU. You can overclock your memory too. When playing games, the sweet spot is 1866MHZ and over. So if you have 1333 or 1600 MHz memory, it is a good idea to overclock them too.

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Well..could try a small OC to something like 4GHz.Cooler is more than enough for it :-) Just got the damn winter flu raging around so kinda powerless to do anything :-)

Hi Flanker,

go a little bit higher, because the turbo boost is already 3.8GHz. As I said earlier, you can easily go to 4.5GHz. Overcklocking at Sandy Bridge 2500K and 2600K starts at 4.5 GHz.

And I hope you will soon get better.

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Finally back on my feet :) Took a damn week to get rid of this flu, tough bugger! So now can get on the tweaking etc. Are there any tips on OC the 2500K as have not been OC for years :oops:

Driver AMD Catalyst 12.x 8.96 14 February
 

Driver related improvement with the new AMD Catalyst 12.x 8.96 14 February for the HD7970.
The release date is Feb. 26th later than 12.3 RC.
Can be downloaded here .
Tip: Go for an absolute clean installation.

Salutes Majo.

Hi Flanker.

Good to hear that you are back again and well. Here are some good sites and tips for overlocking your 2500K.

Here are my overclocking settings:

CPU PLL Voltagea 1.80, multiplier 48, base clock at 100, Vcore manual 1.320, LLC extreme, VRM freguency to 350, Phase control extreme, duty control extreme, CPU current capability 140%, memory 1333>1866 9-10-9-24-1T 1.51250V, all others auto.

Majo, have you tried these out yet?

JD
AKA_MattE

Driver improvement.
 

Oh sorry,

what I meant is that with this driver version you have an improvement "in CloD".
Improvement related to smoothness and removal of certain artifacts, specialy in the shore lines and beachs.

Salutes.

new build just for CoD
 

Removable Rack
Kingwin K450-1062 SATA KF-811

CPU
AMD 8 Core FX-8150 3.6G

CPU Cooler
Thermalright Silver Arrow

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT

Mother Board
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 Rev 1

DVD Burner
Asus DRW 24B1ST /Black/B/AS/OEM

Case
Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply
Cooler Master GX 750 Watt

Memory
Kingston Hyper X 8GB DDR3 1600 CL9 240 pin DIMM 16 GB Total

Hard drive for Storage
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2 Terabyte SATA 7200 RPM 68 MB SATA-6GB/S Item # TSD-2000ASV Model ST2000DM001

Hard Drive for operating system
Sandisk SDSSDX-120G-G25 Extreme 2.5 SATA III 6 GB/S Staples # 730645
Sandisk Model# SDSSDX-120G-G25

Video Card
Gigabyte GV-R797D5-3GD-B Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-BIT GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0x16 HDCP ready, Cross Fire X, Direct X 11, Open GL4.2 and Eyefinity


The Gigabyte card is out of stock at newegg so it may be a few weeks before it is in stock again.

Will this set up be OK for CoD ?
anyone run CoD in windows 7 with 64 bit environment ?
as soon as I get the video card and install it I will update on the forum here.

Dasstuka

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That system should run any game just fine and the upcoming patch will increase performance further. Please update, will be interesting to see what kind of figures you will get :)

I just bought an HiS IceQ 7870 2gb, combined with a PhenomII x4 955BE at 3.7ghz, a Crucial M4 ssd and 8gb of DDR3 1333 ram Im getting an average of around 60fps on a 23" LCD at 1280 x 1024? (my eyes like this setting). Since I swapped from a 4870x2 the game has become far more playabe and it really isn`t as bad as some would lead you to believe. I`m using the 12.4 driver from AMD`s site btw.

Just curious on dasstuka's CPU choice ...

Have the AMD CPU's come of age or do they still lag compared to Intel.

re cpu
 

I have not actually fired up the new system as I am waiting on cash reserves to get the 450 + dollars for the video card :o .

According to the research I did on the net the 8 core AMD Zambezi is a tad behind intel cause most present day games cant utilize the extra 4 cores . But I hope that will change in the near future.

Dasstuka

most games still cant utilize the extra 7 cores, never mind 4... each individual core is slower than any of the intel processors in the same price range

Im owner of ATI 7970 and its a first my GPU when CoD works well witout near any stutters. Waiting for new patch but now, after 1 year I can fly on CoD without problems before.

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System in my signature runs CoD very well. I think the patch will bring it to a whole new level for me and many many others..and that is a good thing :)

I would prefer the hd 7970 over the gtx 680 at any time. I am running it too and for a game like clod, a card with large ram is always a better solution to run it fully stable. In my setup, the card uses up to 2,7 GB ram, which isn't possible for the gtx680.

Although Iwas positively surprised from the performance of the gtx 680, I think of some major disadvantages in my eyes.

1.) not enough ram (the 4GB version will be extremely expensive).
2.) missing gpgpu units or abilities by far not up to date (the card is a quickly released and not fully featured fanboy catcher, although it runs very good).
3.) the bios is not able or was not able to provide u with all feature. I think of a fanboy, who wrote, that this card is fast as hell with its pci-e 3.0 (?) support and that this makes the top edge. But he was stopped by some guys, that found out, that the 3.0 support cannot be activated, although they already had the suitable mainboards for it. (correct me, if I am wrong with this in the meantime).

I cannot say, that this is the wrong card, as I am somehow also a nvidia guy and had my problems with the catalyst and its quality at the release of the 7970. In the meantime, some issues concerning the bad shadow drawing by ati is solved (i had really bad dynamic shadows with older catalysts until 12.4 and also wondered, why nobody saw it, although their videos showed the same issues, e.g. in BF3).

Last but not least I think, that the upcoming big kepker will have all features and will hit ati hard. But they will also have some value to buy it.

For my upcoming 27" triple monitor setup, there is no doubt, that the ati will perform way better than on low resolution 1080p!!! We had more resolution 10 years ago!! :)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5805/n...are-ultra-fast

$999.....:o

Oooooomg, so this is really telling me, that I made quite a good choice on my 7970!!!

But there will again be sone kids, who will run such cards in triple sli or something.

I see it in front of my mind: A youtube video with a 17 year old boy getting this card from his rich parents. He is crying out loud, whining and whistle something with"battlefield and 200 fps" and that he will be king. After the first shock, he holds up the gpu and start jumping around. And because he never went outside to do some sport, he is struggling with his movements, fall down and break apart the card in his face with massive injuries.

Downloadable on youtube under: "Epic xmas face plant into his new gtx 690!" ;) ....do not ask, what drugs I have taken to write that bullsh*t .... ;)

re
 

while looking at some of your profiles I see a listing of ...

Saitek: Pro Flight Radio Panel,

Saitek: Pro Flight Switch Panel,

Saitek: Pro Flight Multi Panel,

Saitek: Instrumentals Panels,

TH Warthog

Throtlle Quadrant CH

Can some of you all post your cockpit setups that you use during CoD ?

Thanks !

Strangely, CloD is the only game I have tested that loads all eight cores – one at around 80%, one at 50% and six at around 40%. It’s also the only one that currently runs at a lower frame rate than it did on my previous Phenom 965, although this is only evident when using the Black Death track as a benchmark. The actual game performance is subjectively a lot smoother, with almost no stutters, which gives the impression of a higher frame rate.

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Das Stuka..I just keep my stick and throttle on the desk, no fancy cockpit stuff here :-) I will build some kind of a support so I can put stick and throttle on my chair for a more ergonomic solution.

A pretty standard setup is the saitek X52 or X52pro, saitek throttle quadrant, and saitek rudder pedals, good quality, good price... you can get better, but you can also get far far worse...

MS SW2FFB + Thrustmaster Warthog (throttle) + 2 x Throttle Quadrants + Saitek Flight Pro rudder pedals (use only the pedal brakes)

~S~

You buy such an expensive HOTAS and then only use its throttle? Really?