No, it's the ENTIRE point. Movies made for rivet counters don't make lots of money. That's why very few are made.

Valkyrie was about the very few Germans who tried to end the war, not about those who fought.

His view that it's a "hell yeah USA" movie is idiotic. It's really an anti-1940s USA movie.

Like I said, if you're judging a movie purley based on what it took at the box office then you're making the exact same mistake as Hollywood is.

Who said anything about movies made for Rivet counters?
I'm talking..
Blade Runner, poor at the box office
Shawshank Redemption, bombed
Donnie Darko, 2 theatrical releases - took around a million (US).
The Big Lebowski, very average takings
Resevoir Dogs, 1.5 million(US)

Top 5 grossing movies of all time. (The best 5 movies ever made, if money is the ENTIRE point)
1. Avatar, jeez
2. Titanic, my heart won't go on..
3. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, people need to grow up.
4. Transformers Dark of the moon, obviously waaay better than Citizen Kane
5. Lord of the Rings Return of the king, it... never... ends..

It is the ENTIRE point. It's the only way we have to determine if lots of people like the movie. Whether or not it's a "good" movie is just your opinion. I thought Blade Runner sucked.

Speaking of great movies...

Moonrise Kingdom

I'll let you figure it out.

lol, I see how it is, but enough of ego stroking you by replying to this stuff

No it's the only way to determine how many people went to see it or how many people bought the marketing campaign, nobody knows how many liked it. I saw Avatar and Titanic at the cinema, hated them both, according to you I liked both these films because I paid to see them.

Why have the Academy Awards? We don't need opinion getting in the way of making billions of dollars. Just give all the Oscars to the highest grossing movie of the year, job done.

I never said that everyone who goes to a movie likes it, but it's certainly the best indication of how many people liked a movie. The Oscars are just the opinions of a well-connected group of people.

Most main stream stuff is utter s%^&.

"A fool and his money are soon parted..."

Its not about how much money a film made or how many people saw it. Its about what it ment to you and why you remember it. However even then filmakers have "artistic license" which is another word for b"^^$&!^...

+1 take Avatar, the way they talked about that film.. and what did we get a story that has been done 20000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Times before..... OHHHH 3D that made the same dull pathetic story sooo much better :evil:

It's not an indication, it's an assumption.
You're the one who said money was the entire point. It is simply not true.
Nobody comes out of a film they've seen and liked and then changes their mind because it didn't do so well financially. The top grossing movies of all time contradict your point. Compare any online Best films of all time lists. That's a better indication. You may see films as a transaction, I see them as an art form.

I judge them on what I get from them, not how much they took from us.

You seem to like dropping grenades into conversations, you've said all Germans were Nazis, in a roundabout way. Completely disregarding the fact that to stand up against Hitler meant certain death, for you and most probably your family.
Are you personally responsible for all the bad things your government has done in your life time? It seems to me you'll say anything.

If you want to live in a world where everyone gets tarred with the same brush and the only value of art is financial then fine, but stop the world first coz I'm getting off.

I hate to burst your bubble, but they make movies to make money. Lots of money. So they are going to make movies that they feel will advance that goal. Period.

I said nothing of the sort, in any way. I said that Germans followed a sociopath to war. Which they did.

Interesting explanation from George Lucas about his motivation and challenges of making "Red Tails".

George Lucas on the Daily Show

Charlo

@David Hayward:
I can't watch apple related trailers, cose I'm not commercialy brainwashed and own one.

So could you please use links to free/standard players.:rolleyes:

LOL well actually I tried posting on here before but I could never understand all the +1s and the +100000s. lol. Is that some kind of thread and post slang that I am completely ignorant of? But actually in no offense to this site because I like what you guys have done. Truly. But I'm a die-hard ballz to the wall SAS fiend. DBW is why I wake up in the mornings. Oops and I forgot work hehe. To see you guys integrate or "help" work with SAS on integrating 4.11 or all the other 4.1s that will be made, would be one of the most definitive times in my life. I could tell my grand kids about it someday LOL. Cheers!

Something isn't quite right here lol. Let's pretend this movie was about Gunther Rall. Would that change the mood a lil bit? Now we all can understand Pearl Harbor. It was a love story and c'mon, a chick flick at best. So what I'm saying is, there are pieces missing here for all this negative response to the movie none of you have even seen. For one, you grumbling sons of a's aint going to get a live show. Gotta go to an Air Show for that and most likely you won't get the manuevering because hell, what 2 million dollar warbird owner is going to do snap rolls all day in his vintage p-51 for YOUR amusement?
Ok we had Memphis Belle a few years back. All star cast! No one seemed to complain then. CGI was still in it's "getting better" stage. The First TA movie was made with maybe 5000 dollars. It was as horrible as Mosquito Squadron. Guys, when will you realize that you are asking for too much? Now if you have personal reasons why you can't or don't wanna see a movie about how horridly America treated our African American pilots , who helped win the war by the way!, then that's between you and God. But to sit there and criticize a movie for the CGI effects from the same director that broght you Star Wars??? I don't want to curse so I'll stop here. Bottom-line is, bring a better excuse because some of you aren't being honest to these readers.

I just hope they don't speak in ebonics in the movie (Let me axe you this , Oh no you di-int girlfren , Whachoo talkin bout willis etc . That'll ruin the whole thing .They should be speaking like it's the 1940s .I was hoping this would be about WW2 , not about the black cause .Also I hope it's not like pearl harbour where 2 guys take on the entire enemy force and win .

I have ultrapack3 , what's the difference between SAS and ultrapack ?

I have good news for you. It's about WW2.

Ebonics? Wow, I hope we don't have any African American readers out there because I would take offense to that and everything you stated here. Use more common sense and keep your personal stereotypes and opinions to yourself. I guarantee that it wouldn't cause a reaction, no matter how you personally feel.

Well since this is 1C I'm not going to elaborate too much but I will say that they use a ton of mods. Mods that are usually not seen on online play. If you like a ton of realism, they have it. You can visit the site:

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php
Hope that helps. :)

I think the motivation for his post is pretty obvious.

Ok fellas can we slow down a bit here please..............


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Having seen the movie, it is actually pretty good!

I wish I had these fps flying through bomber formations ;)

Great scenes and great graphics and the story is the normal one (packed up to fit in 2hrs movie of course).

Only the scenes their are dogfighting ME-262s with P-51s are a bit exagerrated. A single bullet from the four MK108 of the ME-262 would have destroyed half a P-51 (instead of making holes in the cockpit).

~S~