I had no problem telling it to a Navy SEAL in the O Club at NAS Oceana, I'm sure I'd have no problem telling it to your buddies.

The fact that lots of people were killed for nothing does not make it less of an idiotic mistake, it makes it MORE of an idiotic mistake.

I don't care who you told it to before.. if you were to come the same attitude in our mess, you wouldn't have the same outcome.
In fact your brazen attitude, regardless of the politics would guarantee it.. You can pm me.. I'll even arrange it, then you can spout off as much as you like.
If you don't like the idea of coming to the mess, you can say the same to me in person..

What's wrong with my attitude? There was no WMD. There was no Al Qaeda (well, not until we created a great situation for them). There was no reason to invade. We pissed away at least $1 trillion and thousands of lives for nothing (well, not completely nothing, we also dramatically increased Iran's influence in Iraq). By every measure it was a disaster. Sorry if you're pissed off about your buddies being killed for nothing, but that's exactly what has happened, and that has nothing to do with my "attitude".

I'm not interested in politics, like any soldier, we just go and do our job when told to.
But there are too many people on here that spout off believing there is going to be no consequences to what they say, just because its on 'the internet' and it makes it impersonal.
I'm more interested that someone believes they could just walk into another persons country, establishment, and tell people who risked everything, and some paid the price, and tell them they died in an 'idiotic war' and walk away unscathed.
That is a blatant, arrogant, uncaring attitude, that would be recieved and delt with accordingly..
I've spent alot of time working with many foriegn military contingents, and I would never go into their establishment and arrogantly tell them what I thought..

Sorry if you don't want to hear the truth about that disaster. You might want to avoid the internet for the next 20+ years.

By the way, you might also want to read up on that "freedom of speech" bullsh!t. It's one of the things you're supposed to be defending.

...aaand here we go again... :rolleyes:

guys, at least have the decency of offending each other in another thread on the subject..

concur urizen

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zing, i believe

threats of physical violence on a public forum? tut tut tut...
uh, no offence, but didn't that kind of moral opt-out bite the dust after my-lai. how can you not take an interest in what you are being ordered to do, even if you then lay it aside as "they know what they're doing".

the loss of service personnel in iraq and afghanistan is all the more tragic for it being, after years of hindsight, a pretty pointless venture which was bungled horribly. especially iraq. afghanistan is debatable at least, but iraq? jeez.

anyway, so, how did hitler make his way to argentina, are we talking prototype submarine here?

In the prototype Nazi flying saucer, obviously... :rolleyes:

Hitler was a wornout, shattered junkie by '45 .. who cares if he went to south American ?:rolleyes:

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Too many testosterone guys round here IMHO.

I don't understand why having it for real they move to a sim but well .... :)

- Yes!
- No!
- I'll kill you ! :rolleyes:


Pathetic.