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roadczar 05-21-2011 12:47 AM

Here is something weird. At default medium settings my frame rates range 50-60. If I change anything like lowering amount of buildings from medium to low my average FPS drops below 25! :rolleyes:

(and yes I did restart the sim)

kakkola 05-21-2011 12:49 AM

JG14_Jagr,
To be honest is running decently now after integrity bla bla bla!!!!
Everithing medium settings except effect and texture on high
Screen 1440x900
Win 7
Phenom 3.4 ghz
gtx 570 1280mb
8 gig ram

naz 05-21-2011 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHB68 (Post 286472)
I can't make a new clean install from DVD. As soon as I start the setup.exe I get connected to Steam and forced to download the all game although the DVD is inserted. It totaly ignores the DVD in the drive.

I bought the DVD version as I have a 2MB connection only....

Good night.

To fix this issue a quick search of Steam would have given you this answer;
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...5357-FSQM-0382

Installing from Disc instead of Steam
Question

I try to install my retail game from the included disc(s), but the game begins downloading through Steam instead. What can be done?
Answer

Using Steam launch options to install retail games from disc

1. Log in to Steam and click on Library.
2. Right-click on the game, select Delete local content, and confirm.
3. Insert the first disc into your computer.
4. Close Steam (Steam > Exit).
5. Press Windows Key + R to open Run
6. In the Run window type:

"C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe" -install E:

Replace E: with the CD/DVD drive you are installing from if is not correct.
Replace C:\Program Files\Steam if your Steam installation is not in the default location.
7. Press OK. Steam will launch and ask you to sign in if you do not have your password saved. Your installation should continue from the disc.

Its a common enough issue with Steam games.

Spinnetti 05-21-2011 01:27 AM

"By popular demand, enemy indicator arrows will now only appear in the no-cockpit
view, and will not show up when the cockpit is turned on, i.e. work they did in
the original Il-2 games."

Thank God! that was a game killer for me!

Skoshi Tiger 05-21-2011 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakkola (Post 286574)
Ok!
I verified integrity of the game with steam and it works now!!!!
Still low performance above buildings.......oh well....!!!!!!
Thx for the replay JG14_Jagr!!!!!!!

Check to see if the iupdate has reset the ant Epilpsy filter. It did for me.

smink1701 05-21-2011 02:23 AM

Game is running very nicely in most all respects...but...still getting some big blocks of graphic glitches in the water. Not alway, but random.

KDN 05-21-2011 02:33 AM

I see those random graphic glitches over water too.

Khamsin 05-21-2011 02:54 AM

Anyone else seeing that prop pitch is reversed on the 109 (according to the key commands) now?

Compare a Spitfire and a 109 .... the command 'Decrease Pitch' decreases pitch in the Spit, but actually increases pitch in the 109.

Which means if, like me, you fly both the 109 and British aircraft from time to time, you have to have two separate joystick configs to avoid confusion.

I swear the devs are trying to make it harder for us ;)

White Owl 05-21-2011 03:53 AM

I like the new propeller visuals, but have to report a bug. Flying inside a cloud makes my entire screen flash and strobe like I'm at a rave.

ARGH 05-21-2011 03:56 AM

the propellar does not appear right to me. its like it spaz's out. instead of being a constant ring pleasantly to look at, it instead just apears one second and disapears the next in a spaz-fasion.:confused:

timholt 05-21-2011 04:28 AM

I am still getting lock ups requiring task manager exit when doing ground attacks.

Edit on the above: I normally fly either a Hurricane or a spit and when attcking vehicle columns the game will lock up normally on the second pass as soon as I start firing.

I just changed the FMB mission to a 109 strafing a couple of Brit fuel colums, got spectacular explosions (flew straight through them) and did numerous passes without a lock up. An enigma I would love an explanation for.

Also mirrors are still a physadelic mess.

Sound still dropping out occasionally.

Keeps asking me to change out of Aero.

2033cyborg 05-21-2011 05:11 AM

i don't understand some of the complaints... what do you mean by the patch numb staying the same? as soon the patch came out it changes... so far i have not once had a problem with steam patches download for cod and it goes fast i mean i open my game and my new version is already installed...i have try the full screen and so far haven't experience black stripe but maybe it happens only with MP...

drewpee 05-21-2011 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 286556)
Guess they couldn't resist one last patch before the end of the world later to day!

See ya guys it's been a blast! Now how do I convince my wifew to let me spend my last few hours playing CoD? ;)

Very funny and a bit sad. End of the world and here we are ClOD junkys fidlin and playin to the end. Just glad I got a wife and had kids before ClOD or it would be a very lonely quiet place around here. (mmmm quiet,more time for ClOD).:lol:

Ibis 05-21-2011 05:36 AM

Great improvement, thanks team.

GOZR 05-21-2011 05:40 AM

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...520_223338.jpg

This is what i have now ..

AM i the only one that think the UK pilot is just flugly !!
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...520_220758.jpg

AA is just horrible.. x8

Kankkis 05-21-2011 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadczar (Post 286578)
Here is something weird. At default medium settings my frame rates range 50-60. If I change anything like lowering amount of buildings from medium to low my average FPS drops below 25! :rolleyes:

(and yes I did restart the sim)

I got exatly same behaviour yesterday :grin:

whoarmongar 05-21-2011 06:21 AM

yeah im getting some counter intuitive things on my settings too.
unlimited buildings seem to give better frame rate than low buildings.
Full screen runs better than windowed, or psuedo.

Im not complaining tho, just commenting.

justme262 05-21-2011 06:22 AM

I still don't see my prop in most circumstances. If viewing externally and the prop passes in front of a cloud the prop disappears completely as if it is behind the cloud. Also when passing through a cloud sometimes the whole screen flashes like a strobe light. It seems to flash in time with the engine RPM.

I really would like to see my prop a bit more.

Prop~Strike 05-21-2011 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOZR (Post 286652)
AM i the only one that think the UK pilot is just flugly !!

That's just the realism of the sim that's all..... all people from the UK are fugly....they can't help it!

Now us Aussies on the other hand......we are ridiculously good looking! :cool:

mcmatt 05-21-2011 06:30 AM

First impression is good. I like propeller look.

I have problems with stalling in Hurry. In IL2 it was more stable (this is not related to last patch, it's from first release). Or is it just me.

SG1_Lud 05-21-2011 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prop~Strike (Post 286665)
That's just the realism of the sim that's all..... all people from the UK are fugly....they can't help it!

Now us Aussies on the other hand......we are ridiculously good looking! :cool:


LOL!

Now that's genuine british humor

Blakduk 05-21-2011 07:35 AM

I have to agree with PropStrike- i'm an aussie and i'm incredibly handsome. Unfortunately if my visage was put in this game we would be overrun by females in the game and forums, and i come here to get away from the attention.

Ze-Jamz 05-21-2011 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blakduk (Post 286689)
I have to agree with PropStrike- i'm an aussie and i'm incredibly handsome. Unfortunately if my visage was put in this game we would be overrun by females in the game and forums, and i come here to get away from the attention.

And i thought i was alone.....

Wolf_Rider 05-21-2011 07:52 AM

Please put the prop back to how it was, please - pretty please


no real difference between high and low ingame Video settings... maybe 10 - 12 FPS (CHannel and England Free Flight QM) but over London 12 - 30 FPS max (which is to be expected)

Tiger27 05-21-2011 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khamsin (Post 286606)
Anyone else seeing that prop pitch is reversed on the 109 (according to the key commands) now?

Compare a Spitfire and a 109 .... the command 'Decrease Pitch' decreases pitch in the Spit, but actually increases pitch in the 109.

Which means if, like me, you fly both the 109 and British aircraft from time to time, you have to have two separate joystick configs to avoid confusion.

I swear the devs are trying to make it harder for us ;)

Yeh, the animation in cockpit is right now, and clock spins correctly etc, but my lever now goes back for up and vise versa, also teh readout says down when the lever is going up, I still have to set my lever to centre to stop movement, so for me it's the same but a little worse as now I have to remember it is back to front

Toasted_Toad 05-21-2011 08:21 AM

Let's get back to how devilishly handsome us Aussies are. :grin:

I think this should have a sticky post of it's own.

Enough chat, I'm going back to the mirror for another glimpse of perfection.

Cheers,

T_T. :cool:

PS /humour mode off.

Kankkis 05-21-2011 08:39 AM

Couple of things

I'm really happy now to performance but only way i can fly London stutterfree is lower Texture Quality to High, with it i don't get stutter over a london. With Quality i got really bad stutter over london(many sec pauses). Maybe my Videocard memory is not enough.(1gig)actually (2gig but crossfirecard so real totally is 1gig)

Secondly
I use Fraps to check my framerates, i usually go first to Crosscountry, usually i get steady 60FPS when game starts and really stutterfree then. Sometimes when i start the game and go Crosscountry first it go below 40fps and little rubberband effect on low flying, i don't know why, same place, same time and same settings. If i get below 40fps i quit the game and restart, go back to crosscountry and its 60FPS again. I don't know why it behaves like that, is my crossfire card not always works or something similar. It's a luck if it is smooth or not :)

But now i can play and really happy with it. Love new prop.

Sauf 05-21-2011 08:40 AM

Englishman=
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9.../item_3774.jpg

Aussie
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...d_logo_svg.png

Ze-Jamz 05-21-2011 08:47 AM

See...how wrong you are,

that is indeed me in the bottom picture...fact! and im English dont you know

Sry..back on Topic

Tvrdi 05-21-2011 08:53 AM

I lost sound twice (in multiplayer)....only restart fixed....anybody else?

Ze-Jamz 05-21-2011 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 286721)
I lost sound twice (in multiplayer)....only restart fixed....anybody else?

Yes..quite a few times with last retail..annoying to say the least however havent had it yet with the hotfix but have only played for an hour or so...

Eklund89 05-21-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 286721)
I lost sound twice (in multiplayer)....only restart fixed....anybody else?

sound > device(speakers for me) > properties > advanced > exclusive control unchecked.
This fixed my sound problems what i have tested yet.

Kankkis 05-21-2011 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 286721)
I lost sound twice (in multiplayer)....only restart fixed....anybody else?

How Tvrdi, do you got AA 2x works with my method yesterday?

I don't have Sound Problems in single player, not tested MP yet but i have USB sounds.

Insuber 05-21-2011 10:21 AM

This game runs very well here. No problems of sound whatsoever, neither in multiplayer nor in SP. Online is a lot of fun except I had a couple of lags while chasing a Spit with my Emil ... But this is the Internet, isn'it :).
I watched a 109 hammering a Spit above Boulogne sur Mer, and enjoyed the beautiful effects of gun smoke, bullet impact and tracers. I peppered a bomber and a large piece blew away tumbling at my side, I'm quite sure I saw the exposed steel frame in it ... Pure visual joy.

Hopefully the worst performance bugs are behind us; let the devs iron up the remaining issues causing troubles to some of us, and then please adjust the plane's FM and add some gameplay content! I've read that the 109 ceiling is 8000 m, I will test it and if true expect a whining havoc on this forum! :)

Cheers,
Insuber

JG14_Jagr 05-21-2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOZR (Post 286652)

Wow, your game looks like crap... You should put your actual Specs and settings up so people with similar hardware who have it working nicely could pass along some help.. or just get used to Jaggies and pilots with bad teeth..

brando 05-21-2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauf (Post 286716)

Englishman? Ha ha ha.... with a red waistcoat, a blue bow-tie and a BLUE umbrella???

More like the doorman at a ritzy French whorehouse. Don't you know that grey is the only colour an Englishman's suit would be when wearing his bowler hat, and that he would only wear either his regimental colours or his old school colours on his tie. And never a bow tie with a bowler. I'm not even convinced that a gentleman would wear his suit jacket unbuttoned.

:p

B

rakinroll 05-21-2011 11:15 AM

Thank you Luthier.

Insuber 05-21-2011 11:45 AM

Gozr, I have a similar artifact. Taken from the black death track:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3-33-04-10.jpg

Cheers,
Insuber

seaeye 05-21-2011 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy (Post 286485)
btw, if you are start a mission on the ground with a 109, is your pitch also going automaticaly and unstopable to full coarse. And than you have to set it to full fine before start ? just beeing curious.

I have the same problem. Anyone know what I can do to sort this out?

Ali Fish 05-21-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcmatt (Post 286668)
I have problems with stalling in Hurry. In IL2 it was more stable (this is not related to last patch, it's from first release). Or is it just me.

ive notivced the hurry is incredibly hard to fly without stalling too.

unrelated to that theres somthing wrong with the sounds, when in 109 its as if the engine is idle when at full revs. and maybe thats to do with the new prop controll. not sure.

Kankkis 05-21-2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Fish (Post 286799)
ive notivced the hurry is incredibly hard to fly without stalling too.

unrelated to that theres somthing wrong with the sounds, when in 109 its as if the engine is idle when at full revs. and maybe thats to do with the new prop controll. not sure.

Check your PP gauge is set to 12.00. PP is working on the wrong way.

mugen 05-21-2011 01:17 PM

Same for me with the PP going automatically to 9 o'clock (for BF109 which i fly nearly exclusivly). Then i can change it back by commands. Annoying but no real prob.
Performance is pretty good, still stutters here and there but less than before. Playing on high preset in MP now.
The most annoying thing to me is now heavy sound stutters which makes the game now nearly unplayable for me in MP, without just muting it.
I tried several things like updating sound drivers (onboard Realtek chip) and this sound exclusive thing in windows device settings but nothing helped for me.
No sound probs in SP, as i already mentioned yesterday.

Kudos to Luthier and Team for this incredible developing progress since release. I'm really impressed and my glass i still half full! :grin:

thx a lot

mugen

JG53Frankyboy 05-21-2011 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattlehead (Post 286533)
Funny, mine stops at the 8:30 position.

.

i can understand that the Pitch wants to go to a basic setting when the game/mission starts on the ground with stopped engine... but could that not be the 12:00 setting please ? What you need anyway when you are starting....................

Desertowl 05-21-2011 03:21 PM

sound problems
 
while in MP, no sound from the beginning with occasional stutters of sounds and then silence again.
when i looked at the console i saw a repeating error that FOOT.WAV is missing.

flying with the last hotfix, Q6600@2.4, GTX 560 TI, 6GB ram.

phoenix1963 05-21-2011 04:09 PM

Sound fix
 
I'll repeat what I posted above, as all do not seem to have seen it:

I've found two switches in Windows: Sounds -> Playback -> [device] -> Properties -> Advanced -> Exclusive Mode
UNCHECK this.
I've tried many servers, sounds are all on.

56RAF_phoenix

BigPickle 05-21-2011 04:21 PM

thanks for the quick fix, but this is grating me, we have to keep making all these sorta system changes just for this game.

ATAG_Doc 05-21-2011 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 286805)
Check your PP gauge is set to 12.00. PP is working on the wrong way.

Does it act like a 3 position switch now? Before it was a smooth lever but it seems it has a top, middle and bottom. Are you finding this as well?

Pitti 05-21-2011 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timej31 (Post 286890)
Does it act like a 3 position switch now? Before it was a smooth lever but it seems it has a top, middle and bottom. Are you finding this as well?

Yes, now it acts like a 3 position switch but I have to invert my control axis to make it work correctly. Also in the motor info window the prop pitch control slider is inverted. If you raise the rpm, you push the prop pitch contorol up, the slider in the montor info window goes down.

Blackdog_kt 05-21-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy (Post 286473)
as a non native english speaker and a STEAM novice - I personally would like to have a further explanation about this please.
Thx in advance !


Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy (Post 286485)
THIS , for sure, i dont want do !!!
Perhaps it is possible to copy the settings via WordPad (or similar programm) in the than new conf file ??

and what is so different in the new one.

As i said, to configurate the controls and infowindow is a lot of hassle with this game (i also have the complete bombercontrols mapped !) !!
And before i will do that again i want know why i should do that exactly !!


btw, if you are start a mission on the ground with a 109, is your pitch also going automaticaly and unstopable to full coarse. And than you have to set it to full fine before start ? just beeing curious.


The cloud keeps backups of your configuration files and control settings on some Steam server.

If you have messed up your conf.ini you can enable this and it will restore the backup.

However, doing so will cancel any changes you have made after the last "cloud backup" was done. This is why people lose controls.

What you can do is run the sim, go to options-->controls and click on the "save as" button. This will let you save your controls locally on your disk.

Then you can enable the cloud thing to get your conf.ini to default standards. After this is done (i guess it needs to run and exit the sim once to do it), you can turn it off again.

Finally, you can go once again to options-->controls and press the load button. You'll get a windows pop-up menu asking you where you controls file is, just point it to the location on your hard-disk where you saved it. This will restore all your controls.

Short version:

1) Save your controls from within the game interface on your hard disk
2) Exit the sim, enable cloud.
3) Run and exit the sim to "fix" your configuration files to default standards
4) Load your previously saved controls from within the game interface.


Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy (Post 286825)
i can understand that the Pitch wants to go to a basic setting when the game/mission starts on the ground with stopped engine... but could that not be the 12:00 setting please ? What you need anyway when you are starting....................

Maybe it's standard operating procedure to feather the prop before shutting everything down? This would prevent windmilling when the aircraft is parked on the ground and the wind blows, which could damage the engine or cause accidents (if the ignition remained to on by accidents).

ElAurens 05-21-2011 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timej31 (Post 286890)
Does it act like a 3 position switch now? Before it was a smooth lever but it seems it has a top, middle and bottom. Are you finding this as well?


The prop pitch control on BF 109s was indeed a three position rocker switch on the control column, and not a lever. Push it one way and the pitch increased, push the other and it decreased. The "hands off" neutral position left it where it was last set.

Desertowl 05-21-2011 05:39 PM

sound problem - cont.
 
well, I did the trick phoenix1963 suggested, and while making things better, after about 2o min. of flight the sounds were muted again, stuttered for a bit and then utter quietness...

322Sqn_Dusty 05-21-2011 05:42 PM

Overall performance improved slightly.
I'm not able to max out the game visually. The edges aren't smooth, i've seen better visuals in CoD before. Does this relate to Crossfire? Changed all settings one by one to sort it out. Drivers were changed to 11.5.

Tvrdi 05-21-2011 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 286735)
How Tvrdi, do you got AA 2x works with my method yesterday?

I don't have Sound Problems in single player, not tested MP yet but i have USB sounds.

Hi mate, AA is working now...thanks....sound probs I had online

mungee 05-21-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mungee (Post 286411)
A big improvement in frame rate - thanks Luthier.

As you were!

I'm now certain that the lastest patch 1.01.14550 has made the stuttering worse - it was good under "medium" settings with the previous patch - now the stuttering is very evident on "medium" settings.

I'm also now getting teh graphic glitches on land and sea (junks of water on land, and land on water, that appear and then disappear).

Sorry, but I believe we've gone backwards with the latest patch.

I must say ... I'm still unbelievably impressed with this sim - I'm confident it will soon be running well. The attention to detail etc is mind-blowing - it's the playability that now needs attention.

Ivan Fooker 05-21-2011 08:56 PM

Well this "FIX" fucked it up again for me.
The screen is flickering from black to ingame back to desktop and it takes ages to kill the game via taskmanager.
Not able to get into the game for playing.


However this is my system:
I7-920@3.01ghz;HD5870VaporX;6gig Ram;Win7-64bit. cat 11.3
Playing on Fullscreen,1680x1020(?)...one below FullHD at least.

I will check to get a log file i can send to Luther.

-> Fullscreen fucked up since latest fix for me! Back to "Pseudo" Mode
.....dont get a PR Manager,...save the money for a one more programmer...lol!

Positive:
the PP is working on keys aswell as on axis.
performance seems to be slightly better ~ 2-4fps.

Tvrdi 05-21-2011 09:13 PM

OK finally I had more time to test....aand..its much better now. Online that is. On my rig CLOD runs great (most settings at high, grass and shadows off) now. Sounds is ok now as I tried what somebody suggested with my sound settings in win7. Altough it was pretty slow when i was looking with max zoom flying over trees. All in all, at least now I have hope LOL.

Gromic 05-21-2011 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 287005)
...Sounds is ok now as I tried what somebody suggested with my sound settings in win7....

Got a Link? Haven't got a chance to read all new posts since 2 days.

Cheers

Ivan Fooker 05-21-2011 09:28 PM

I am noticing little "knix & knax" before firing the MgFF or the 20mm.

Flying with the PP is really great now! Congratz on that fix!
A bit annoying it is initially on 10:50 (?)...at least not at 12:00h.

Blackdog_kt 05-22-2011 01:42 AM

I think it starts with a pitch for low RPM due to having airstart missions in the QMB.

The new pitch control is awesome (even though it's currently reversed, pressing the key command that raises the RPM on other aircraft actually lowers my RPM in the DB equipped ones), more historically accurate and more precise, but it also has a realistic limit on how fast it changes and that makes it slower than before.

If we were starting a QMB mission on the 12:00 position it might over-rev the engine before we could bring it under control. We would have to chop the throttle to contain this and in QMB it's not really practical to deny yourself speed at the initial merge.

Actually, 9:50 is pretty close to the cruise setting i use (10:10) and the spawning speed is close enough, so i just advance it to 10:10 and increase RPMs only if i want to climb after the initial merge.

dflion 05-22-2011 04:09 AM

Ver.1.01.14588 issues DFLion
 
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PCconfigDFLion
OpSys: Win7pro 64bit
Processor: Intel Core2 Extreme Q6850 @3.00Ghz
Ram: 8GB Corsair
Video card: ATI HD4870x2
Display: Benq24 1920x1200 (59Hz)
Direct X: DirectX11
Sound: Creative SB X-FI

After flying 5 missions at 60fps +-, the fps started to drop away to 32fps, then down to 17-20fps. Then suddenly the sound cut-out. I restored the sound by getting out of the game then restarting it, though the fps was still low at 17-20fps.

Another observation flying at 60fps, as soon as I (CTRL'd F2) to another aircraft the fps dropped to 32fps and stayed there, then gradually dropped away to 17-20fps.

With this version I noticed some graphic issues, mainly over the sea, though their were some on the land - see thumbnails attached.

When flying a mission with German aircraft taking-off at the same time as you (in Spitfire) there is another dramatic drop in fps. Several members have mentioned some type of 'memory leak'. I think the RAM is being used effectively at the beginning of the mission, then for some reason it is staying used and not renewing its full capacity as the mission progresses, which ultimately drags down the fps.

I have tweaked my ATI Catalyst 3D controls to get the best fps 60-70+fps, then the whole fps gradually dies while flying the missions.

To compare fps, I flew a few missions in IL-2 1946 - 140-170fps during flight and 450fps in the mission selection screens? Ilya and team, these are the fps target rates you have got to eventually try and get to?

DFLion

dflion 05-22-2011 04:54 AM

Cloud Synchronization ver. 1.01.14588
 
Quote from Luthier

"If you experience sub-par performance or unexpected artifacts please update your graphic
drivers to the latest version.
ATI Cards:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloa...downloads.aspx
NVidia Cards:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
Additionally, if you have disabled Cloud Synchronization for config files, you may be playing
a game with an obsolete controls config. Please back up and delete your old file and reenable Cloud Synchronization to grab a latest stock version"

I forgot to mention in my previous post that I have upgraded to the latest ATI graphic drivers.

I find 'Steam' to be very insidious (proceeding inconspicuously but with harmful effect). Sadly I wish for the good old IL-2 Sturmovik Days when you just posted a patch through Mission4Today. Steam seems to pervade your computer from every direction and you can't communicate with it. It might be good for your security and reporting on member useage/statistics etc. though for me with a wireless broadband with 3GB, its a pain!

Ilya (or team member) could you very kindly explain a little more about the how 'Cloud' works in 'Steam' and if we get an automatic 'Steam' upgrade with the 'Cloud' sychronization automatically upgrading the 'controls config.'?

DFLion

dougandtoni 05-22-2011 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dflion (Post 287134)
Quote from Luthier

"If you experience sub-par performance or unexpected artifacts please update your graphic
drivers to the latest version.
ATI Cards:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloa...downloads.aspx
NVidia Cards:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
Additionally, if you have disabled Cloud Synchronization for config files, you may be playing
a game with an obsolete controls config. Please back up and delete your old file and reenable Cloud Synchronization to grab a latest stock version"

I forgot to mention in my previous post that I have upgraded to the latest ATI graphic drivers.

I find 'Steam' to be very insidious (proceeding inconspicuously but with harmful effect). Sadly I wish for the good old IL-2 Sturmovik Days when you just posted a patch through Mission4Today. Steam seems to pervade your computer from every direction and you can't communicate with it. It might be good for your security and reporting on member useage/statistics etc. though for me with a wireless broadband with 3GB, its a pain!

Ilya (or team member) could you very kindly explain a little more about the how 'Cloud' works in 'Steam' and if we get an automatic 'Steam' upgrade with the 'Cloud' sychronization automatically upgrading the 'controls config.'?

DFLion

Yeah what i can not work out is Luthier says "Additionally, if you have disabled Cloud Synchronization for config files, you may be playing
a game with an obsolete controls config. Please back up and delete your old file and reenable Cloud Synchronization to grab a latest stock version" So why back up your old file or more to the pont if you back it up when do you get to reuse it. Seems to me they are clutching at straws here

GOZR 05-22-2011 06:28 AM

Cliffs Of Dover Retail Patch v 1.01.14588.....

dflion 05-22-2011 08:03 AM

GOZR - thanks
 
GOZR - I've just signed-up on your web site - very impressive. I will post my 'issues' on your site shortly and see what your community has to say, thanks.
DFLion

Tvrdi 05-22-2011 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gromic (Post 287012)
Got a Link? Haven't got a chance to read all new posts since 2 days.

Cheers

Windows: Sounds -> Playback -> [device] -> Properties -> Advanced -> Exclusive Mode
UNCHECK this.

kudos to Phoenix

whatnot 05-22-2011 10:23 AM

Some experiences trying the patch & hotfix last night
 
So a few thoughts:

- London FPS test, all settings more or less maxed out except buildings on medium @ 1920 x 1200: Smoother than before! Getting about 30-35 fps flying low level with no stutters. Haven't had much problems before either.

- Full screen works nicely for me

- AI pilots on some still wacos especially on larger planes, not sure if that was tweaked much though with this release

- Tried MP on a german server: worked ok with no fps or stutter issues. Had some hickups / stuttering on sounds though that popped in and out every 5 mins or so. Haven't cleared any caches or done any other tricks are posted..

- Hung once after joining MP server when selecting the army (chose a plane first, not sure if there's a connection). Had to cold start my pc.

- The briefing & plane customization screens finally before a mission are a godsend! Missed a zoom on the map though, is there one?

So overall a good release for me so thanks a lot for your efforts!

Tell me what would be a good MP server for a european? I'm getting 250-350 pings to Syndicate and the rest in Europe (with 6-7 players) had ppl just speaking german on them. Would love to find a way to join MP, hook up TS or something with a few random pilots to fly a formation without being a part of a clan or whatever.

Is that doable?

BobTuck 05-22-2011 11:20 AM

Thanks for the continued updates

BobTuck.

David198502 05-22-2011 12:14 PM

ok!my summary of the hotfix patch and enableing cloud snyc in steam!

i dont know what exactly happened, but i wanted to be sure to have a vanilla version,so i deleted the game,and reinstalled it.
although i didnt change much in the gamefiles,except the conf.ini file,where i set processaffinitymask to 3 instead of my default 2.and i put my joysticksettings from my old il21946 conf.ini file into the new one from cliffs of dover.but thats it.i didnt change anything else.
now after reinstalling the game,there is no processafinitymask anymore in my conf.ini file.
i only put in my joysettings from il2,but didnt touch anything else.

but somehow now the damage model and the plane models look far more detailed then it looked before.at least thats my impression after an hour of gaming now.that really impressed me.
also the buildings seem to have more detailis.and everything with keeping the same settings as i had before deleting the game.

the only downside is that i have pretty bad stutters.some more than 5seconds(screen totally freezes)!they are even worse than the first version of the game!london is unplayable for me again.though the fps are pretty the same now as with the beta version(maybe a bit less).but they jump up and down when im above a city or near some buildings,even if its only a small village.the problem with the fps drop and freezes only occurs if i change my view.i have trackir and if i look right or left,the the screen freezes and fps drop dramatically.if i hold my view steady,then the game seems to have a steady performance.

but two things i really like:
the new prop visuals!
and the handling with the prop pitch!its much more accurate and more workload now which i like!!

flyingblind 05-22-2011 12:56 PM

The map zoom is scroll bar on left or mouse wheel.

I really feel for the guys having problems running this game. I count myself incredibly lucky that I find it just gets better with each update. The last hotfix has given me smooth, steady game play with no nasty graphical anomalties and glitches apart from a little flickering flying through white cloud and very slight tree shadow flickering. Fps are a bit low and patchy over London, especially attacking bombers but then I don't have a top end system. I have everything at maximum except for SSAO on and mirrors off and probably average 30 to 40 fps.
Everyone is running the same code yet some have endless problems whilst others just don't seem to. It seems the difference must lie somewhere in the configuration of the different systems and or the hardware used. I am not saying the problems are the fault of the people who are struggling as a PC game should run on any PC given its specs are high enough. I am sure the developers are doing this but I think it is important to correlate problems encountered with system specs and setups to try and find common causes and effects. Just to say the game is crap is pointless because in a lot of cases it obviously isn't.
I really hope they can get these issues nailed soon so they can move onto other stuff like replacing placeholders etc. etc.

Rolltide88 05-22-2011 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=flyingblind;287277]The map zoom is scroll bar on left or mouse wheel.

I really feel for the guys having problems running this game. I count myself incredibly lucky that I find it just gets better with each update. The last hotfix has given me smooth, steady game play with no nasty graphical anomalties and glitches apart from a little flickering flying through white cloud and very slight tree shadow flickering.

I'm running the game on a baseline 21.5 inch 2011 iMac in Windows 7 and I rarely have any issues. I mostly get hiccups when flak is present. I can fly all day over London on medium settings and it is absolutely gorgeous. Then I read about people with much higher specs that have problems over the channel. Makes no sense.

I'm glad you posted that about the map zoom, it was driving me crazy.

TomcatViP 05-22-2011 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khamsin (Post 286606)
Anyone else seeing that prop pitch is reversed on the 109 (according to the key commands) now?

Compare a Spitfire and a 109 .... the command 'Decrease Pitch' decreases pitch in the Spit, but actually increases pitch in the 109.

Which means if, like me, you fly both the 109 and British aircraft from time to time, you have to have two separate joystick configs to avoid confusion.

I swear the devs are trying to make it harder for us ;)


Yeah I had the same issue. My pitch prop was actually ctrld by a slider of my Cougar throttle and it went back to normal after affecting buttons to ctrl the coarse.

However the speed at which you can ctrl the prop pitch is much to slow to counter the engine behavior. It tends to let us fly constantly at a too slow tune (hanging on the prop in climb) or cte over reeves in dive.

I guess that the amount of increase at each click hve to be altered ?

Anyway, congrats to devs for this much expected patch :grin:

Space Communist 05-22-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingblind (Post 287277)
The map zoom is scroll bar on left or mouse wheel.

I really feel for the guys having problems running this game. I count myself incredibly lucky that I find it just gets better with each update. The last hotfix has given me smooth, steady game play with no nasty graphical anomalties and glitches apart from a little flickering flying through white cloud and very slight tree shadow flickering. Fps are a bit low and patchy over London, especially attacking bombers but then I don't have a top end system. I have everything at maximum except for SSAO on and mirrors off and probably average 30 to 40 fps.
Everyone is running the same code yet some have endless problems whilst others just don't seem to. It seems the difference must lie somewhere in the configuration of the different systems and or the hardware used. I am not saying the problems are the fault of the people who are struggling as a PC game should run on any PC given its specs are high enough. I am sure the developers are doing this but I think it is important to correlate problems encountered with system specs and setups to try and find common causes and effects. Just to say the game is crap is pointless because in a lot of cases it obviously isn't.
I really hope they can get these issues nailed soon so they can move onto other stuff like replacing placeholders etc. etc.

I am in your boat, every patch better than the last. However I must have less faith in humanity, since I am pretty sure that a heck of a lot of the whining on these forums are cases of PEBKAC.

LcSummers 05-22-2011 04:59 PM

Hi,

this hotfix is for me a step backward. I have to disable clouds and shadows, it worked well with the beta patch. Now i have to lower some texture /environment details too. More stutters than previous patch, sometimes crashes. Game is a new installation.

These are my first tests with the new patch. Propellor is fine, had an engine hit and engine stoped working in the Spit. Really beautiful this new animation.

Blackdog_kt 05-22-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomcatViP (Post 287303)
Yeah I had the same issue. My pitch prop was actually ctrld by a slider of my Cougar throttle and it went back to normal after affecting buttons to ctrl the coarse.

However the speed at which you can ctrl the prop pitch is much to slow to counter the engine behavior. It tends to let us fly constantly at a too slow tune (hanging on the prop in climb) or cte over reeves in dive.

I guess that the amount of increase at each click hve to be altered ?

Anyway, congrats to devs for this much expected patch :grin:

You have to keep the button pressed to make any noticeable pitch changes, because they are driven by an electric motor. According to a link posted here a couple of weeks ago, the pitch control system on the DB605 could turn the blades a mere 1.5 degrees per second, so it wasn't really fast in reality.

I haven't tested if this matches what we have in the sim, but the engines are different as well (we have DB601s) so there could be differences. Also, 10 minutes on the clock instrument corresponds to 1 degree, so if you keep the button pressed and you see it turning 15 minutes per second it would match the specs of the DB605 system.

The link is here: http://marseillegruppe.com/foro/view...f328cb9d3b84f4

Winger 05-22-2011 06:21 PM

OK i tried lots of more sorties and in MP i ALWAYS get the soundbug sooner or later. 1C REALLY has to fix that bug with a hotfix since its a major gamebreaker. Not just for me.

Winger

Kankkis 05-22-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winger (Post 287401)
OK i tried lots of more sorties and in MP i ALWAYS get the soundbug sooner or later. 1C REALLY has to fix that bug with a hotfix since its a major gamebreaker. Not just for me.

Winger

If you have usb headset or headphones try them, i dont have problems with usb headset. Then it doesent use soundcard at all.

Tvrdi 05-22-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winger (Post 287401)
OK i tried lots of more sorties and in MP i ALWAYS get the soundbug sooner or later. 1C REALLY has to fix that bug with a hotfix since its a major gamebreaker. Not just for me.

Winger

you did this?

in Windows control panel: hardware and sound-> Sounds -> Playback -> [device] -> Properties -> Advanced -> Exclusive Mode
UNCHECK this.

Steuben 05-22-2011 07:08 PM

yes Tvrdi tried this and it did not help!

Winger 05-22-2011 07:22 PM

Yes Tvrdi, i tried. Didnt help.
Thanks

Winger

phoenix1963 05-22-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 287414)
you did this?

in Windows control panel: hardware and sound-> Sounds -> Playback -> [device] -> Properties -> Advanced -> Exclusive Mode
UNCHECK this.

Sorry Chaps, I thought it worked, but longer testing shows it doesn't.

56RAF_phoenix

Sauf 05-22-2011 09:41 PM

On at least 2 occasions when I lost sound it seemed to happen at the same time that a msg flashed on screen warning of an incoming bomber raid (SYN), so thought that was the problem, but since then have lost it for no apparent reason.

S`

Blakduk 05-22-2011 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix1963 (Post 287493)
Sorry Chaps, I thought it worked, but longer testing shows it doesn't.

56RAF_phoenix

I tried this fix as well- it made no difference for me. Still losing sounds at unpredictable times.

_79_dev 05-22-2011 11:40 PM

~S~

Try to lower down sound quality in control panel, you probably have 98kHz set, it's way too high, you are not even able to hear difference if set to 44kHz, I dont have issue with loosing sound but always may help...

Tiger27 05-23-2011 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Space Communist (Post 287324)
I am in your boat, every patch better than the last. However I must have less faith in humanity, since I am pretty sure that a heck of a lot of the whining on these forums are cases of PEBKAC.

Im the same it gets better with each full patch, I have had some set backs with some of the betas, I tend to agree with a your last comment as well, just the config.ini thing will be causing a lot of problems, the new ini files are a lot different to the old, so anyone that has turned cloud save off will be stuck with an old incompatible file, I had some issues with crashing with this patch, until I followed Luthiers advice and downloaded the proper file, it was a pain because I had to redo my settings, but I havent had any issues since doing this.

Tiger27 05-23-2011 01:43 AM

Just wondering, if all the people with sound problems are running seperate cards or onboard sound, must be some reason that many have this issue while the rest dont.

Blakduk 05-23-2011 02:54 AM

Tiger- I'm running onboard sound and getting sound problems with the most recent patch when i'm online.
Offline i dont have the same problem.

timholt 05-23-2011 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiger27 (Post 287565)
Just wondering, if all the people with sound problems are running seperate cards or onboard sound, must be some reason that many have this issue while the rest dont.

Onboard sound and getting the occasional loss of sound. Sometimes it comes back, others require a restart.

roadczar 05-23-2011 04:20 AM

Losing sound with Creative SB X-Fi as well.

Kankkis 05-23-2011 04:30 AM

Luthier and Devs,

Check link below, tripled on my Crossfire framerate. Steady 60FPS over london and really smooth.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...d=1#post287599

Cdr84 05-23-2011 05:06 AM

Sound problem there with onboard sound (Realtek).

No problem with old Soundblaster Audigy, btw it works with everything every time .

Improvement in all of the video problem areas.

Cdr

Q6600@3.0Ghz
Nvidia GTX580
4gb DDR2 ram
Win7 64bit

GOZR 05-23-2011 05:29 AM

So what do you think ? no need of words.

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp344/GOZR/clod.jpg
vs.
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp344/GOZR/rof-1.jpg

Wolf_Rider 05-23-2011 07:15 AM

nice work Gozr...

what is really need though is for the bits and pieces to be working properly first - such as selectable weathering and loadout to be active in the QMB, for the Loadout section to be working properly... ie select Default or any Custom built belts/ gun assign and have that reflected in the gun assignment box, same for fuel (I haven't looked at bombs yet, but I assume there is grief there too)

phoenix1963 05-23-2011 08:20 AM

Sound problem
 
I have the sound problem with a Creative X-Fi.

All my squadmates have the same problem, most use on-board sound.

The only common factor is, I think, we all use Win7 64 bit. But that doesn't mean it's related to the problem, of course.

Intel Q9550 at stock speed
Asus P5KC mobo
6 GB RAM
XFX AMD 6950 2GB flashed to a 6970, underclocked back to 6950 speeds
Win7 Pro 64 bit
Creative X-Fi with community 64 bit driver (ugh, Creative)

56RAF_phoenix

Insuber 05-23-2011 08:54 AM

Sound problem in MP here as well. It arrives after an unpredictable amount of time (from 1 h to 15 minutes). A lot of people online report the same issue.
I have an onboard Realtek audio (mobo Gigabyte Z68x-UD4), win 7 64. I have unchecked the sound/advanced/exclusive thing, and also changed SoundEngine from 1 to 2 in the conf.ini, to no avail.
Symptoms are always the same:
Sound begins to stutter, without any apparent repetitive pattern, stays broken for several seconds to a minute, then disappears. Sometimes it comes back after 10-15’, always preceded by the usual sound stutter, then usually it ceases again. Sometimes the engine sounds come back, but the gun sounds not.
Very annoying!

Cheers,
Insuber

Varrattu 05-23-2011 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix1963 (Post 287639)
I have the sound problem with a Creative X-Fi.

All my squadmates have the same problem, most use on-board sound.

The only common factor is, I think, we all use Win7 64 bit. But that doesn't mean it's related to the problem, of course.

Intel Q9550 at stock speed
Asus P5KC mobo
6 GB RAM
XFX AMD 6950 2GB flashed to a 6970, underclocked back to 6950 speeds
Win7 Pro 64 bit
Creative X-Fi with community 64 bit driver (ugh, Creative)

56RAF_phoenix

Win7-64 Ultimate, Sound: 24 Bit, 96000 Hz,
Creative SB X-Fi, driver 6.0.1.1348, Creative ALchemy, release 1.41.02, EAX activated,
Ingame CloD: Surround

No stutter, no problems ...

But I wonder if the actual CloD version ( 14588 ) really supports EAX :confused:

S! Varrattu

phoenix1963 05-23-2011 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varrattu (Post 287647)
Win7-64 Ultimate, Sound: 24 Bit, 96000 Hz,
Creative SB X-Fi, driver 6.0.1.1348, Creative ALchemy, release 1.41.02, EAX activated,
Ingame CloD: Surround

No stutter, no problems ...

But I wonder if the actual CloD version ( 14588 ) really supports EAX :confused:

S! Varrattu

Varrattu - Your post wasn't quite clear enough, can you confirm that you get no sound problems in online games? We've the same sound card, so obviously I'm very interested.

56RAF_phoenix

P.S. My understanding was that CloD doesn't use EAX. Oleg was very keen on ambisonic through headphones, I think.

F16_Neo 05-23-2011 09:56 AM

Still not possible to switch seats without engines go cold.:rolleyes:

JG14_Jagr 05-23-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dflion (Post 287127)
To compare fps, I flew a few missions in IL-2 1946 - 140-170fps during flight and 450fps in the mission selection screens? Ilya and team, these are the fps target rates you have got to eventually try and get to?
DFLion

I'm sure they are, but it won't be on your rig, and it wont be this year. You did notice that the game engine is MASSIVELY more complex graphically AND in complexity??? You're not in IL2 1946 anymore Dorothy..

Positronic 05-23-2011 09:58 AM

Game is running very nicely now, but while it used to be stable before this last patch & hotfix now It is locking up, ctrl - alt - dlt and it's listed as non responding

David198502 05-23-2011 03:40 PM

for me unfortunately the stutters increased much since the last official patch.
with the beta patch i could fly over london almost smooth and only minor stutters.now the screen freezes for 5-10seconds(and not only once).its unplayable again.luthiers suggestion,to set buildings detail to high or lower doesnt help either.
i have squares of green and brown all over the map.fps dropped from average 50 to 40 over land.if i want to quit a mission and hit escape,i will see windows desktop(i have to push it about 30times until i see the clod interface again).and all that after a fresh install of the game and with the latest drivers and steam cloud on as suggested by luthier.im pissed


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