It will definitely improve. For now I will try lowering resolution and fiddling with affinity mask

yep ill try with AM set to 15...

Dropping resolution from 1680 x 1050 to 1440 x 900 made a big difference for me.
Obviously, Epi filter off (if you don't have epilepsy...)
process affinity 15 in the conf.ini
tree's,houses off or very low
clouds off in missions
seems to work for me anyway!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...er/Bounced.jpg

I have made better experiences for me with AM=14.

I can get the game to run of sorts if i turn everything down or off, but why would I want to do that, Im not seeing a whole different FM, the AI isnt as good as Il2 from what Ive seen so far. And with everything turned down or off then Il2 looks and feels loads better than Clod.

Well even my rig suffers, over London I was getting fps in the 20s, dropping to 15-20 as I scanned around with TrackIR, that was with Medium Forest and Medium Buildings Amount, 1680x1050, AAx4, AFx8. I then reduced Forest to Very Low and Buildings to Low for two reasons. There are far too many individual trees around (just like FSX) and it just looks wrong especially in London. Very Low seems better. Also Forest and Buildings Amount are known hogs which MG are working on to render in a different way. So with Very Low Forest and Low Buildings Amount I get 30-40fps, dropping into the 20s as I scan around. When I set Building Details from High to Medium I get another 5-10 fps over London (30-45). That should all improve when they patch it.

And thats the point, you may need to play with some settings especially those that don't really matter. MG may have given us a zillion trees but not only doesn't it look right I can do without them.

Does your friend have the 580 combined with 460 in SLi ? (didn't know you could with 2 different cards) because SLi is porked atm, its a fix they are working on. A single GPU works better than 2 atm, also I saw someone raise the question about dual cards (580?) asking if they work as 2 cards in SLi mode but that may be a red herring.

I also have Shadows off and Grass off (who needs it?).

I'm sure things will get better but just like FSX I don't think the PCs are out there yet that can deliver everything the game has to offer.

ASUS Sabertooth mobo
i7 950 @ 4GHz
Megahalems cooler/dual fans
6Gb DDR3 RAM
EVGA GTX570 superclocked
128Gb SSD 300Mb/s
Win 7 Home Premium
850W PSU
22" Samsung 226BW monitor @ 1680x1050
Coolermaster HAF912 plus case

Did you try disabling SLi?

one pattern, going by reports from users, is that the old quad cores with lower hz rates are some of the worst performers in CoD. people with current dual core cpu's (which includes hyper threading, even if by some indications this might not be extensively used yet) seem to do much better

similar with gfx cards, single cards with 1.5 gb vram or higher seem to have no problems, but people with "sli on one card" (with each section having 1 gb vram) dont have much joy.

the older i7 cpu's might seem kool to wannabe's that havnt done their homework before plonking their money down, but these i7's strength really only lies in video encoding/decoding and other similar type applications that are specifically programmed to use them (which most games dont, and afaik there is no indication BoB/SoW will be either). they are a complete misbuy for a gaming in 2010/2011, and usually perform significantly worse then cheaper current midrange i5's (most of which have significantly higher mhz but are only dual cores).

are you serious??
 

Are you serious ???

But the true is, I have i5 750 oc 4GHz, 1600/7/7/7 RAM 4GB and GTX480 (stock clocks) and an SSD. And this sim cant run in 1920/1080. I have horrible stutters, although fps is around 30-40 (medium to low settings), on lowest possible settings also no joy. And my GPU never exceeds 95%load. There is a huge problem with coding I think.

And I also have SSD in IDE mode...got a little bit better in comparison to AHCI and A-10C is now totally smooth on almost full settings

I think the April fools are all posting here.
Will they EVER optimise this sim - well Luthier posted to say the next optimisation patch will be out this week, and that there will be more.

Honestly it's like screaming children at christmas because you forgot to buy batteries for their new toy car.

its nothing like that mate....I purchased this advertized as a completed product....what Luthier posted - we will see what will be..hope they will fix this


btw, which configi.ini we should modify? One in COD folder inside STEAM main folder or the one located in C:\Users\[username]\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover ?? Also I have HT turned OFF in BIOS as I doubt COD will use 8 cores....should I try with HT set to ON?

Unfortunately the reality is that didn't happen. Most of us didn't expect it to either. If you really need the game to work perfectly from day one, you've wasted your time. Even if it did work perfectly, there are only planes from 1940, which is only a start - eventually we hope for a lot of aircraft like the original IL2. Suggesting that the game might not ever receive any optimisation, given that the developer has said we will get an optimisation patch in about 1 days time from now, is ridiculous.

The latter

The one under Documents. But also note that if you have Steam Cloud switched on for the app then your changes may well get overwritten. Take a copy as well ;)

To turn off/check Steam Cloud, select the game in your Steam library, r-click, Properties, Updates tab, uncheck Enable Steam Cloud synchronization.

I fiddled with config for Affinity mask, and the user one to move the chat window and it worked fine.

I just checked that and no changes were made... the cloud read the file as I left it on my machine... perhaps there may be confusion about the cloud syn.
for instance if you are on another (of the three allowed) in one location and modded your file there, and then went to another location and a second machine and hooked up the sync would kick in, changing your file.

with no changes being made, all three machineslocations should have the same file

LTP (latest takes precedence)

aii, that sounds painfull. having looked around forums in the 2 few weeks there seemed to be a pattern emerging, but not the case for your situation.

the SSD seemed to be another solution to the microstutters, combined with 1.5 + gb of vram, but you got both covered

frankly, this is the reason i still havnt bought the game myself (yet i have been one of the most vocal proponents of the project). right now with all the problem reports they need to bring out some fixes SOON for me to jump in and join you lot. i still have no doubt this will be the best ww2 flightsim for years to come, but it might well take them weeks or even a few months to solve the main problems. untill then i simply dont have the time to waste on perpetually searching for fixes which cant be found till they solve the bugs. looking at some of the video's and screenshots of people who can run it well, it looks absolutely stunning when it works well. many of the new features are also pretty special, cant wait to try the fully working collimator gunsight with 6DoF :)

rather funny tho to see tree deliberately put more sand in his man-gina and buy it just so he can whine more. entertaining to watch, but its about time the little creep should get perm banned from this forum for his deliberate malevolent postings (which should be obvious to all now).

Yes I have klem still no joy.

Zapatista, you claim to support the game, well go and buy it, your comments here will not be taken seriously until you have installed it and tried it.

Hey Tree, how long have you got until your ban from the SimHQ forums is up? ;)

well im optimistic that after some time CoD will be optimized and slowly increase our joy down the line...

however the early release probably was forced by ubisoft so they finally get some cash.
if this is the right approach is very questionable and the collateral damage might be bigger than the advantage of early fundings...

anyways the question is how they make it up to the community for the pain they cause?
expectations where high also because they were pushed by certain feature statements...
most of us will sit this out and watch CoD being polished and even contribute to the improvments like in a Beta-Test.

so i do hope ubi and 1c will recognize our patience and reward it with different goodies. i guess this also happend in the past. but since this dillema now with CoD is quite big the goodies for the community need to be accordingly! ;)

despite my many conflicts with various oppinions I do agree the release had a stumble on its first step, but at least it's headed in the right direction (a propper flight sim), I am struggling with this 'pain' analogy people are using.......pain? really?

I will be the first to agree that I do not always like what Tree_UK posts...
But he did see the forest before the trees so to speak.:rolleyes:
He predicted a half finished game and that is exactly what has been delivered.
Calling Tree a creep or any other name does not change the fact that the game should have been delayed and fixed. It is obvious that the game was not tested at all with any modern systems and that is why the release has been an absolute disater.:eek:
I am an old IL2 stalwart and messing in the config files is second nature.
But for a flightsim novice buying this off the shelves in Russia or anywhere else this game is crap.:(
A youngster with an i7, 8 gig of ram and a GTX580 that installs this game is going to toss it especially when you consider you have titles like RoF, Black Shark and other flight sims that actually work out the box.
It may eventually be the il2 killer it was claimed to be but currently it is dying.
One day when Oleg writes his book, I am sure the launch of CoD will make a very amusing read. I know it will not be his last chapter as things will look up soon enough...
Roll on patch 4.11 for CoD of course :)

That is like predicting that dogs will bark. It was pretty obvious that the game had to be pushed out the door. That is not the slightest bit unusual in the software business. Get over it.

Every EA game I have ever purchased has worked out the box. Yes there have been patches to fix some issues early on and then bigger ones for tweaks etc...
But to say it is normal to release a pc game that gives you 8-9 fps on a high end machine, seriously have you been smoking something:rolleyes:

not consistently, only over densely detailed terrain, and even then not 'everyone' has had the same problem, lets get just a little perspective, yes the game wasn't perfect on release, but why do you doomsayers have to paint the blackest possible image.

EA isn't making WW2 flight sims. RoF was a disaster when it was released. And not everyone is getting 8-9 fps.

I know it is not posted in correct forum or thread, but let's share it here, because I think your post is very interesting and even MORE important to realize...

I am creator of Hitler and IL2: CoD rant video, and youtube offers quite nice demography statistic based on the viewers.

What I see on statistics, probably quite a surprise for many - huge majority (more than 70%) of viewers are older than 35 years... 13-17 is absolute minimum... even there are more people 65+ than these youngsters... And btw... 97% of all are men...

It is empiric findings - this community is getting old, it is in fact old. And I think this is the biggest problem of the flight sim game segment, which has to be addressed if you want to have nice and modern sims in future too.

Right now, this game failed to attract young people (or newbies)... There is nothing which would take them away from FPS or RTS games. Next combat flight sim has to be written completely differently, if they would like to attract young men (or newbies).

It is a must, to accept the real empiric data. It is a must to create a sim in balance of technical beauty with "gaming" beauty, which is attractive also to the young people.

Btw... it was viewed by around 10 500 people. I don't think all of them are IL2 only virtual pilots. Many viewed it just because of nostalgia, because they used to fly in IL2 few years ago... it doesn't look like big community, big market segment. In fact it look like this community is shrinking... let's say, dying slowly...

And having this in mind, it must be said by anyone who is really loving PC combat flight sims - to Oleg, Luthier, whoever will pick this fallen flag from mud - Not this way next time. Learn from the mistakes of others and do it differently.. Please...

and some people are doing their best to make sure it does.....

Not to sound like a dull old person, but it seems that the youngsters today are living their lives like computer games rather than living the life and gaming separately. In that vein, Angry Birds are par for the course for majority of users, while WoW etc. are there for the hardcore dorky part of the population.

With regards to the platform - less and less and less people are willing to splash out on huge, cumbersome, complicated and unreliable gaming PCs, more and more are satisfied with the console for gaming+tablet or netbook for internet browsing.

So let's face it - we'll have a world where nobody is playing flight sims, except for those playing real-life flight sims (like everyone flying Airbuses, modern military planes or UAVs :))... I'd say in 20 years or so.

unfortunately, their best is not enough as empiric facts say... But real problem is not their best or lack of skill, the problem is in the philosophy of this sim.

Goal of this sim is to simulate perfectly (if possible) planes, FM, DM, CEM, weather, turbulence etc... . But it is missing crucially simulation of virtual "pilots", squadrons, Battle of Britain theatre as whole... It is critically lacking what's called "social gaming" today... This is even worse and fatal than old MIDI sounds of guns or that Skins are in wrong directory or anything like that...

after 6 days of european release and still waiting on a north american release I am not exactly surprised it hasn't got it's own community yet.........it just surprises me that others from an apparently 'social' community are so anti-social about this sim and just want to see it die.

You don't need to be a mainstream with millions of virtual pilots... Nice result would be to have around 5000 players on Steam as average... now it is 630?

This new game is sitting on Steam between 1 year old games... One above Rome Total War... Come on, you can't be happy about this result just one week after release...

Not to mention that people constantly berate Wings of Prey for trying to bridge the gap between arcade and realism. It's one of the best realized product we have in ages, that really tries to bridge the gap, yet people just stomp on it.

Old geezers.

personally I wouldn't condone criticising WOP, it does what it does very well and it does look very nice, it just doesn't satisfy the more sim based sensitivity, what I notice is quite the opposite, people are trying to flog ClOD to death by comparing it to IL2(modded) or WOP......quite unfair.

There is another statement from gamestar.de one of the biggest german computer games magazines.

http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/il-2-s...6,2322049.html

"They refuse to test the game, because they have 3 well-equipped computers in editorial office and the game is actuall not properly playable."

What's your point?

I can see you rubbing your hands together and laughing..........do you feel good now? maybe youd like to pull the wings off some flies or strangle a puppy too?

Maybe it is unfair, but it is even more than unfair what Maddox Games has created and sold to their loyal and loving customers...

Don't make me laugh.....if any of you were loyal you'd be slightly sympathetic, all I see are back stabbing creeps.

I did not want to open a new thread. I want to prove with sources that the game is not playable yet. What some of you still deny.

I cannot hardly remember a game, which could not be tested after the release.

I try to remain objective, you not.

I want to hit anyone at all to the pan. This is an assumption! I would love so, if it works properly.

But the best yesterday and not just in one year!

I'm pretty sure their loyal customers understand what is going on.

Again, what's the point? Some people can play it now, some can't.

yeah....the ones who are actually playing it and are satisfied that it is....do you not get it, you won't prove anything.

And again, bongodriver allow only his own opinion! :rolleyes:

You can have your own opinion, but you don't get to make up your own facts. Fact is that some people are able to play the game.

You fail!!!! I am one of the ones who CAN'T play it.....but I am inteligent enough to see there are people who can.......get it now?

Yes... "loyal" customers wait and hope for patches and updates... but this is the reason why the average number of players on Steam is 600... If there is no such horrible bugs and problems, it could be ten times more... why not?

And if even one of the biggest German game site refuse to review and also recommend to its readers to wait with buying, something is definitely wrong. It is not just a small flaws... it is a major release failure... there should not be any excuses on or within Maddox Games, chopped heads should be flying and rolling on the deck already... well... in normal company and industry...

so you like to strangle puppy's too Opitz and Etzi sounds like quite a double act.

Why would you possibly care if heads are chopped over this?

I don't understand, sorry... English is not my native language... Are you trying to offend me personally because I am saying what you don't like to hear?

if you want to keep the genre alive and attract new customers it needs more than a hardcore flightsim that focuses on the bare functionality of the models.

lacking immersiveness on music, sounds, gameplay in missions and campaign will scare off newbies. i bought the sim. cuz i love the realistic damagemodel and i was hoping for a good campaign. i will stick to CoD and watch it be optimized in performance and usability.

but i doubt that it will create the sales needed if there is no significant improvement on immersiveness after the performance has been fixed...

I tell you this - I will wait for the second patch... After it is released and if it will improve mayor flaws, OK there is some hope on long long way... but if the patch will be same effective as first one... it will be the end... this second patch is critical. if it fails, game over...

are you saying you are not trying to be offensive? you basically admitted you are trying to 'prove' this game is a failure....that could be considered insulting, here is a analogy for you....do you like any sports? do you support a sports team? many do......and some people will support that team wether it is good or bad and be loyal to the end and they won't be very happy if someone 'shit talks' about them, you are more than entitled to your oppinion but are you really surprised that you will get an argument?

Why do think I would care what you're going to do? Heck, why do you think anyone cares what you are going to do?

They are going to patch the game. Then they are going to patch the game some more. Eventually they will fix it. If that's isn't good enough for you, then your opinion does not really matter.

really? because you say so? fair enough......

lol, this is laughable, lets get back on track, this is a performance related thread, my game is unplayable hence the title I started, there are a few that are enjoying the game but the mass majority have problems.

Theres no point discussing this with bongodriver or david, they are proof that you cannot reason with the unreasonable.

This thread is going nowhere, not that it ever was going anywhere. :confused:

It is closed...