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Antinko1 09-21-2009 10:24 PM

Hmm, well all I know is that the P-51D in IL-2 Forgotten Battles is a pleasure to fly; whereas, this game's version is twitchy to the point of being ridiculous.

I've played a lot with my sensitivity settings too - the thing is just on a hair trigger.

MorgothNL 09-21-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Antinko1 (Post 103661)
Hmm, well all I know is that the P-51D in IL-2 Forgotten Battles is a pleasure to fly; whereas, this game's version is twitchy to the point of being ridiculous.

I've played a lot with my sensitivity settings too - the thing is just on a hair trigger.

thats the strange thing :confused:. I loved the P-51 in IL-2 FB, I just found its guns a bit underpowered.
I asked about that in the other forum, and the devs said, the flight models are the same ones in Il-2 FB as they are in this game.

but no way that the P-51 is handling the same. I loved it in FB, I hate in in BOP :(

Smidlee 09-21-2009 10:42 PM

I was wondering the same thing.
These post would be a complete joke if someone suggested the same thing in BoP:
Someone asked what would be the best beginner online plane 5 years ago and someone posted
Quote:

... I think the P-51 is your best bet as it performs well and handles well, yet it will be out-climbed by other planes and it doesn't hold its energy as well as some planes. You will still be very competitive but the characteristics of the plane will also help teach you many important aspects of aerial combat (like gaining altitude whenever possible, not turning too tightly as to bleed your energy, etc.). Flying a plane that simply turns really well (Zero, I-153, etc.) won't really improve your skills much either, the most effective people in good turning planes are the ones who understand the other aspects as well.

I would give the Mustang a try. Just my opinion.
Here another reply
Quote:

Probably the P-51, very forgiving handling and great overall performance.
There isn't nothing forgiving about P-51 in BoP

Antinko1 09-21-2009 10:44 PM

In FB, the Mustang is twitchy but you don't need much stick input because you can fly the thing with frequent trim adjustments. Still, even when you're not flying it with fine tuned trim, it isn't as twitchy as it is in BoP.

I might have to purchase an AV8R stick to see what the difference is when flying. I suspect that no matter how toned down you have the sensitivity, you'll be prone to over controlling the plane with that twiddly little thumb stick.

I'll play around with it a bit...

MorgothNL 09-21-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Antinko1 (Post 103668)

I might have to purchase an AV8R stick to see what the difference is when flying.

I'll play around with it a bit...


dont buy it if you think it will benefit the P-51... it doenst. just buy it because it is nicer than a pad ;), just dont think it will save the P-51

Pup 09-21-2009 11:07 PM

I've found the same thing with the P-51. The thing is, I don't remember it being as unforgiving in the demo for the Tiger Hunt mission. Also, if the plane is designed to be flown at higher altitudes, then it don't help much when you get missions with it like Tiger Hunt to fire rockets at ground targets and fend off enemy fighters :)

o351 09-22-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pup (Post 103676)
I've found the same thing with the P-51. The thing is, I don't remember it being as unforgiving in the demo for the Tiger Hunt mission. Also, if the plane I is designed to be flown at higher altitudes, then it don't help much when you get missions with it like Tiger Hunt to fire rockets at ground targets and fend off enemy fighters :)

great point about tiger hunt! i may have 8 to 10 hrs in the p-51d and I getting better so if you like it dont give up, learn to use its advanteges and slowly add back the elevator do not touch the airleorns(settings) and every turn needs some rudder! I have and love the av8r however when you stall its a little tough to recover but by all means I would recommend this stick!
p.s. Im at about 45 kill on capture the airfeild with my p-51d so about 5 more hours and I have my rockets :)
p.s.s. if anyone wants to fly there mustangs with me hit me up GT. o351 I prefere CTA and Strike (if we play strike you can escort my B-17:grin:

MorgothNL 09-22-2009 12:14 PM

GOOD NEWS P-51 FANS!

Im gonna qoute a dev here:
Hello guys!

We studied P-51 flight model and made some minor corrections. Our QA team are checking it right now.
All flight models were taken from PC IL-2.

and later:
So last updates: we have found some issues, that were indeed in the game. Long story how it happend, but it is fixed.
Also, good guess from you, guys, help us to increase performance of P51 - it has full fuel tanks, and this decreased it performance.


so we might get a nice P-51 after all ! :grin:

dzyeph 09-22-2009 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorgothNL (Post 103835)
GOOD NEWS P-51 FANS!

Im gonna qoute a dev here:
Hello guys!

We studied P-51 flight model and made some minor corrections. Our QA team are checking it right now.
All flight models were taken from PC IL-2.

and later:
So last updates: we have found some issues, that were indeed in the game. Long story how it happend, but it is fixed.
Also, good guess from you, guys, help us to increase performance of P51 - it has full fuel tanks, and this decreased it performance.


so we might get a nice P-51 after all ! :grin:

Registered just to say that's brilliant, really looking forward to a nicer-handling P-51, I started off thinking I was absolutely terrible as the P-51 was the first plane I tried on realistic but quickly came to the conclusion it was the plane I was having severe issues with.

Very shiny :)

Raw Kryptonite 09-22-2009 12:39 PM

This make sense now. Full of fuel that thing could barely fly, much less maneuver and accelerate on demand. By the time it got to it's objective it would have burned enough off to be effective.
Really happy with Gaijin for listening to everyone.


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