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Keneth 11-24-2008 12:55 PM

Actually there's only one item that gives a morale bonus to humans, as I've already mentioned, and there's a few for specific units like knight-type and mage-type. :-P

Stepsongrapes 11-24-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Keneth (Post 59579)
It does? I've never used a single-race army, why would you want to do something as ridiculous as that? :P

The all-elf army is considered one of the most powerful armies in the game (to the point of being broken). Between Anga's Ruby (with 3 female mobs in the race), the Elven Crown, and the auto +1 morale, elves are pretty much can't be topped for damage per leadership point. Dryad's wacky spells are just icing on the cake.

I wouldn't be so quick to knock it, if you've never even tried it.

Metathron 11-24-2008 04:37 PM

Pity there's no +1 for all races.

I agree that an elven army is obviously superior to any other in most circumstances.

How does everyone like an all demon army? I tried it very briefly, but did not like it at all. Guess it doesn't suit my play style, with all the melee units.

Keneth 11-24-2008 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stepsongrapes (Post 59668)
The all-elf army is considered one of the most powerful armies in the game (to the point of being broken).

Which is only thanks to Anga's Ruby in all its awesomeness. And the maximum ammount of morale is 4, so Elven Crown + Ruby is the most you can have for your female army, the other two spaces might as well be replaced by something more efficient than elves.

An all-demon army is nice, although archdemons aren't that great for a level 5 unit (gonna look into fixing that once I'm done with the game), might be better to use another group of imps or something. Although personally I think it's best to mix in a different unit like shamans, inqs, dragons, and the like.

Stepsongrapes 11-24-2008 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Keneth (Post 59673)
Which is only thanks to Anga's Ruby in all its awesomeness. And the maximum ammount of morale is 4, so Elven Crown + Ruby is the most you can have for your female army, the other two spaces might as well be replaced by something more efficient than elves.

An all-demon army is nice, although archdemons aren't that great for a level 5 unit (gonna look into fixing that once I'm done with the game), might be better to use another group of imps or something. Although personally I think it's best to mix in a different unit like shamans, inqs, dragons, and the like.

Of course Anga's is a big part of it- elves have the most females. So what's your point?

If you replace the two remaining slots with other elves, they get AT LEAST +2 morale from the crown and the army bonus. Additionally, they would benefit from the Dryad's initiative spell.

For a person that hasn't even bothered to try it, you seem intent on knocking it down summarily.

Obviously, no one army is the best army for all situations, but to say that someone using a single race army is being "ridiculous" is simply wrong.

Smash 11-24-2008 06:14 PM

2x imps, demons, demoness and maybe hellhounds are good army, wife give you nice item which lower leadership cost for them so... :).

Keneth 11-24-2008 06:25 PM

Even if you consider elven archers/hunters with +2 morale and dryads' initiative ability, there are still better ways to complement that army than running a purist version and being satisfied with it just because "it works". I never said that it's a bad option but from my powergaming view it's inefficient and ridiculous, maybe if you add every other elf-buffing item into the equation like the whole elven set and some archer items but the abilities of other units alone make them a lot more desirable than a stack of decent elven troops.

Smash 11-24-2008 07:48 PM

Give example.

Keneth 11-24-2008 07:57 PM

Example for what?

Stepsongrapes 11-24-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Keneth (Post 59688)
Example for what?

I think he's asking for examples of "something more efficient than elves" for the other two spaces.

I find +2 morale elven archers (especially with the Scope, or Scope + Keg) to be very efficient in those two spots. Very few mobs will give you comparable damage/leadership. Plus, their physical damage (with the ability to be Dragon Arrow'ed) complements well the magic damage of the rest of the army.

Again, in a situational game like KB, throwing out a statement that all-race armies are "ridiculous" (especially when you've admitted to never trying them) or even that their always second best means you're over-generalizing and frankly, being plain stubborn.


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