Official Fulqrum Publishing forum - Time now to let TD loose on CloD for bug fixing only! Not for new content? 1c listen?

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- - Time now to let TD loose on CloD for bug fixing only! Not for new content? 1c listen? (http://forum.fulqrumpublishing.com/showthread.php?t=35112)

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Originally Posted by Ailantd (Post 470987)

You are wrong.
Sequel stand alone means that you will can buy only BoM and play only BoM. But if you already have CoD they will be merged. In other words: BoM will be not a DLC, but a stand alone expansion.

You say it won't be stand alone, but then you say it will be stand alone... I'm confused.

In that path lies madness

Direct quote from luthier;

. Definitely not planning to release any sequel features as add-ons for Cliffs of Dover, sorry.

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Originally Posted by Ailantd (Post 470987)

The way I understood it was:
BoM already contains Clod planes and maps off the shelf.

He said something about time capsule, ability to fly spits and e3 in BoM.

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Originally Posted by pstyle (Post 471000)

Direct quote from luthier;

. Definitely not planning to release any sequel features as add-ons for Cliffs of Dover, sorry.

He also said they would be able to be merged. What he is getting at here is that they will not release features for free for CloD- you will need to buy the sequel to get them together- or at least that's how I understood it when taken with his other posts saying they would merge.

Its like Forgotten Battles and Pacifik Fighters, both can played stand alone, but can merged also. :rolleyes:

i think so too, both can but dont have to be merged

as far as i understand future bugfixes for COD will only come with BOM, if you stick to CLOD only, nothing will change but with BOM all fixes and changes will apply to COD too.

And thats the best way to ensure even the frustrated COD players will buy BOM because all want a better COD ;)

I thought TD was allowed to continue improving IL2 for free because the game series had been abandoned by the official development team. But CoD is supposed to be the *first* game of the new commercial series, so how would TD fit this?

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Originally Posted by Mysticpuma (Post 470970)

Right, we all know many of the bugs reported in the official (and unread) bug tracker have been left unfixed and now the final 1c patch has been released we are left in a position of limbo.
There are many fixes still to implemented and for some players these are crucial to allow them to at least enjoy their purchase and get it into a playable condition.

So may I humbly suggest that 1c allow TD the chance make CloD work as it actually should by letting them read the bugtracker and fix the most 'popular' bugs still present.

Now I appreciate that there would be concerns about new features and similar being added but that is not what I am suggesting.

As much as I would love new shipping, working weather, etc,etc this is not what I am suggesting.

Since 1c are now finished with clod, the features would stay the same BUT it must surely be possible to let TD fix the bugs that exist in the current software as they do appear to at least listen to the community and also care about the playability of the Sim?

I would only request that they be allowed to bug fix as I wouldn't like to think that they would be taken away for too long from their amazing work on 1946, but please at least consider that now CloD is Abandoned for development, it would be seen as a sign of future community relations to at least consider letting TD make the sim a final working package.

Appreciate thoughts on this from the community, TD and 1c.

Please give us hope of having the bugs that 1c have given up on spending time fixing could at least be fixed by your brilliant and talented TD guys.

Cheers, MP

Well - the reason TD "got" the code for 1946 was that that MG was done with it, they where not going to use that code any more. IF TD would get the current code for CloD we would never get any merged install (without losing the efforts of one team). After this latest patch we will get no more patches for CloD, but the same code base will continue to evolve when they work on the sequel - and when we "merge" the sequel with CloD we actually only get to use the old maps and aircraft with the latest iteration of the CloD core engine, with new features and GUI stuff etc...

So unless TD and MG would merge their branches of the core modules before the release of the sequel that would mean the end of a continuously evolving core game like we had in IL2-->1946. The basic core engine was the "same" all those years, they just kept upgrading it and released new versions as sequels by adding maps and planes etc, including the old ones in the "package".

So - no way I would like a TD developed evolution of CloD at the expense of having a core game that lives and evolves over 10 years if successful...

The day the CloD codebase dies I'm all in to "give" it to TD to get an extended life. I hope that MG has version 3 in the oven at that time too! ;)

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Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 470988)

no hope in hell, and good thing to

you really think they are going to give away their source code to let a few amateurs tinker with it and waste the millions it took to get where we got to now

rather odd idea

TD already said on SimHQ 'not snowball chance in hell'.