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SlipBall 10-14-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 469459)
Possible? The development is barely surviving now. COD was not a success and never came close to covering the development costs. That said its unlikely it would have anyway, as the development costs had risen too high for the initial release in the series to cover them.. If the Sequel doesn't make a significant improvements it will also fail. How long do you think IC will continue to throw millions at the development with little return. Interest? There may be interest, but the forums are full negativity that would drive anyone that may have had a budding interest in the series away. Luckily the series could easily be reborn if the Sequel addresses most of the game engines issues, all the past angst would soon be forgotten.


I really think that the investors know all that, but discount it because of the interest level. They know the engine will finally get done someday, and the sequels will benefit, as will they. Show me another 1C product, or a Ubi product that has anywhere near the interest level of the Il-2 name. Investors look at level of interest, hit counts, threads, posts, in general the activity of the fan base. Sorry Chivas, but you are off the mark with your assumption, there is just too much interest for the investors to abandon...There are very few of us who will stop monitoring the development, no matter what they might claim out of their present anger. Il-2 is a natural survivor even in this a depressed world economy, because it is very unique.

CaptainDoggles 10-14-2012 07:46 PM

I always liked the name Storm of War, to be honest.

Continu0 10-14-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles (Post 469493)
I always liked the name Storm of War, to be honest.

I think something like that will be coming. It is time to start a new series. "Il-2 Sturmovik" had it´s time.

Pato Salvaje 10-14-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 469465)
Spanish Civil War, Battle for Poland, or Battle for France probably won't be made by the developer as the theaters is too small, but those will most likely be made by commercial third parties or community third parties, using the map SDK etc.


Spanish Civil War a "too small theatre"?... lol

Anyway, I´ll be happy if any 3rd party make these scenarios... :-P

Chivas 10-14-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 469472)
I really think that the investors know all that, but discount it because of the interest level. They know the engine will finally get done someday, and the sequels will benefit, as will they. Show me another 1C product, or a Ubi product that has anywhere near the interest level of the Il-2 name. Investors look at level of interest, hit counts, threads, posts, in general the activity of the fan base. Sorry Chivas, but you are off the mark with your assumption, there is just too much interest for the investors to abandon...There are very few of us who will stop monitoring the development, no matter what they might claim out of their present anger. Il-2 is a natural survivor even in this a depressed world economy, because it is very unique.

I agree that he investors would benefit from a long successful series, which I've said a hundred times, BUT if the Sequel fails there is little chance the IC investors will keep supporting the devs and losing millions of dollars.

He111 10-16-2012 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 469465)
The development has already decided not to use IL-2 Battle of Britain, and used IL-2 COD, for a variety of reasons. It doesn't matter anymore as the series moves on anyway with new names. The only tricky part is letting people know that the Sequel (IL-2 Eastern Front, IL-2 BOM, IL-2 BOS) or whatever they name it, also includes the Battle of Britain.

Spanish Civil War, Battle for Poland, or Battle for France probably won't be made by the developer as the theaters is too small, but those will most likely be made by commercial third parties or community third parties, using the map SDK etc.

The reason i suggested Spanish Civil War was that it requires no more aircraft ! We already have 109 E-1, He 111 (H? E?), CR 42 .. and hopefully we'll get I-15, I-16 and SB2 in BOM ... so a pseudo Spanish Civil war is already there ... kinda! :grin: Plus, JU 52 should be already mostly done ? yes? Love to see some Spanish Civil War skins!

Sequel fail ?? how can it? The game is getting bugs fixed. New aircraft. The only way I could imagine the sequel failing is if the developers screw up the Version Control, and we get get alot of old bugs !

If the developers want to save costs and release times, just allow modding / release a SDK. I have a flyable defiant and P96 in my sights! :grin:

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David198502 10-16-2012 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles (Post 469493)
I always liked the name Storm of War, to be honest.

+1

Chivas 10-16-2012 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by He111 (Post 469833)
The reason i suggested Spanish Civil War was that it requires no more aircraft ! We already have 109 E-1, He 111 (H? E?), CR 42 .. and hopefully we'll get I-15, I-16 and SB2 in BOM ... so a pseudo Spanish Civil war is already there ... kinda! :grin: Plus, JU 52 should be already mostly done ? yes? Love to see some Spanish Civil War skins!

Sequel fail ?? how can it? The game is getting bugs fixed. New aircraft. The only way I could imagine the sequel failing is if the developers screw up the Version Control, and we get get alot of old bugs !

If the developers want to save costs and release times, just allow modding / release a SDK. I have a flyable defiant and P96 in my sights! :grin:

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I agree the Spanish Civil War could be done, but not by the developer because it simply it wouldn't be a big enough draw. Like you say it already has many of the aircraft, and with the release of the SDK in the Sequel, community or other third parties could make the map and campaigns required.

Yes the Sequel could fail. Personally I think it has a great chance to be successful, but there is alot of work that needs to be done.

Jaws2002 10-16-2012 04:28 PM

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Is It Time To Change The Name ??
Yep. Change the name..... and bunch of people working on the project.

smink1701 10-16-2012 08:10 PM

Maddox Games - Over the Cliffs of Dover

Just kidding but couldn't resist. :grin:


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