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accept it we live in an anarchy where the stronger imposes the rules

why people decieve themsleves

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 443761)

Possibly, but I think it more likely that they were either found on some neo-you-know-who website, or simply pulled from the nether orifice of the person posting them. ;)

Yesterday, you said that you were leaving this forum for good. And that you were going to post on the Rise of Flight forum instead. You were yesterday very annoyed with this forum.

Why the 'U' turn?

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 443861)

accept it we live in an anarchy where the stronger imposes the rules

why people decieve themsleves

Actually, as civil law is not so much reliant on interpretation and research by lawyers, given the more rigid nature of the laws, in most countries with a propper judiciary you have good chances for being treated quiet fairly.

Germany sports civil law codes since the days of the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation. One reason why germans, in general, have a lot of trust in the state is this tradition that goes back centuries. Back then, a peasant could go up to the "Reichsgericht", the imperial court, with some chances of winning even against a nobleman or cleric.

Even today ppl believe in the general fairness of this system, the judiciary is one of the few branches of government which people actually trust.

It certainly looks different on an international level.....yet at least.

Small but interesting tidbit:
Hitler tried to implement a common law style system, first because of it's germanic originins, second because it made Friesling style judgement born out of the moment and not bound by written law easier. Get the right people in the jury and everything's possible.

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Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK (Post 443917)

haha... you called him out :D

Why am I still posting on this forum? Simple. I've changed my mind, and have decided to use the forum to conduct research into abnormal psychology. My thanks to all those who are contributing....

you need your friends close but your enemies closer ;)

RationalWiki:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land

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Freemen hold that we are all subject to a massive international legal conspiracy perpetrated for the profit of the elites, but you can hack the system if you just use the right form of words.[2] They believe only in their version of natural law, which they call "common law." In practical terms, they believe this means they do not have to pay taxes, debts, mortgages, etc. because we were all deceived and if you say the right form of words this fact will be accepted.

No freeman arguments have ever succeeded in court; some have even explicitly ruled that the term "freeman on the land" has no legal significance when the argument is raised.[4] Actually using the arguments gets people into worse trouble, including fines, asset seizures, contempt convictions and criminal records. However, this doesn't stop freemen from claiming, without any supporting cases, that the arguments work.

Hmmm... really...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywYkx...watch_response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8wZu...eature=related

Thank you Farber: more material for my research into abnormal psychology.

Tell me, do you actually believe that by saying a few magic words you can absolve yourself from responsibility under the law, as these 'Freemen' seem to be suggesting? And if so, have you said them yourself?

P.S. Driving without insurance or tax is morally reprehensible, and if you think it harms no one you are an idiot. If some a-hole gets away with it, that doesn't make it right.

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 444015)

Thank you Farber: more material for my research into abnormal psychology.

Not a problem always happy to help my communist friend. :-P

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 444015)

Tell me, do you actually believe that by saying a few magic words you can absolve yourself from responsibility under the law, as these 'Freemen' seem to be suggesting? And if so, have you said them yourself?

NO. However some people do think this is a get out jail free card! Its not! To do something like this you must accept ALLOT OF RESPONSABILTY! Allot of people from what I have seen are riding it like a free gravy train. They are perverting it and if anything, if there is any validity, are going to ruin it!

Take this idiot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kScy-...eature=related

He wants to run the new bank of England essentially... Telling us all about Greedy bankers and his secret system to retire legal money to create his own monies uder the guise of saving the people... ;) Fat greedy git!

No I have only had few dealings with police. Ive never needed to have any such dialougue with the peelers. ;)

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 444015)

P.S. Driving without insurance or tax is morally reprehensible, and if you think it harms no one you are an idiot. If some a-hole gets away with it, that doesn't make it right.

Tax only goes to help the enviroment in no way though... so tax, meh. The actually amount that goes on roads is laughable next to the rest of the payment.

Insurance, yea unless your loaded and are willing to accept FULL RESPONSABILTY! Which most people are not. Most people need the government to look after them. However we should not be taking a rifting to get insured as we are, seeing as how, I have never had an accident on motorcycle or car for pffff? 7 years? Yet they charge you on age, sex etc... Its a scam...

Can you show me the anti-semetic stuff from John Harris's website/forum. I could not find it!

You should actually watch the first post so you have more of an understanding. Then you might be able to engage better. I found the bit about registration quite intriging, resgister means to surrender, in a legal sense apparently, which means you dont own your car the DVLA does, you are the keeper, its all there in you docs.