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Originally Posted by fruitbat (Post 421063)

so if Clod had had a playable demo, how many would have bought it???

considering its state of performance and everything.If they had released a demo of Clod i would have tried it for a few minutes and would have gotten over it real quick.(not many could have run the game then)

Well said, but you already have the demo on your machine and paid for it ! ;)

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 421037)

well that might be your case mate, you can appreciate that there are also newcomers that were deceived by the fake specs and content promises.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this at least in part. In this day and age of forums, reviews, and easily obtained videos from readily accessable places on line, there's no reason to have stepped into CoD blindly. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I never buy something without checking it out first. While I'm as dissappointed as the next fellow regarding CoD, I knew what I was getting.

Could there be folks who happened to be shopping in their local Best Buy, saw CoD on the shelf and bought it because it looked flashy and within their specced PC's range? Yup. But I think those days and kind of buyers are fewer and farther between today, as compared to say, when IL2 was released.

I remember being fluffed by MSCFS3's graphical preview movie, but there wasn't any gameplay video released. How many were chuffed at how the game ran on their systems? I was. It looked nothing like the gameplay trailer. I bought it in haste and learned. ALWAYS review before purchasing. Today access to info is readily availible - much more than in 2002 when MSCFS was released.

As I said I have to disagree in part.

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Originally Posted by fruitbat (Post 421063)

so if Clod had had a playable demo, how many would have bought it???

AoA, Carguy and DavidH....oh! and Bongodrums. Seriously though, I can't see the harm in a demo for BoM, it's actually a bl**dy brilliant idea to let people try it out. Just a couple of planes on a small MP map with a few missions to show the new features off. Also, access to full options like graphics and controls of course so people can test it out on their rigs. This would eliminate a great deal of the complaints because it would throw out the "I've been robbed of my 40€ fortune for this cr*p!" arguments right out the window. Or, like many other devs are doing these days, have a "free to try weekend" on Steam where you can try the full game for a couple of days and then decide if it's worth your dough.

I know for sure, I won't be buying it day one no matter how much luthier and Co will blow it up. That first day buy trust is gone with the wind, I'll see the feedback on the boards instead and reviews of course, like simhq, which I trust.

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Originally Posted by RickRuski (Post 420826)

If the current state of affairs carries on for too much longer I think that the "Team" should seriously consider a free playable demo for BoM before releasing it to the market to assure their paying customers that they finaly have things fixed. The results of this beta patch are not convincing enough to get the largest part of the community behind them. Most of us were hoping to have a major improvement with this patch, but it hasn't happend for at least 50% of us. With the original Il2 series there was a playable demo available, this convinced a large % of the supportive community to try and then buy the series. With CoD there wasn't a demo, so we went in relying on what we thought we were going to get from the advertising and the good will that had been developed with the community. From a lot of threads and replies after patch 17582 most of the goodwill is starting to go down the gurgler. I hope things get better quickly, but I've stopped expecting too much too soon.

Have just noticed that RoF are due to release the "Channel" map, how far away would it be from adding a Hurricane or Spitfire and Bf109 to RoF. Once the support base for CoD starts losing it's followers it will be very difficult to get them back.

How far? I ask how much? With over 40 variants of the bf109, would you pay $7-$14 a plane? with no reason for the rof devs to develop anything other than sellable content (scarf anyone, $3.99 please).

These are two different approaches to a business model and for ww1 the RoF model works ok but ww2 I think not...

As far as the patch goes it has fixed some major things for some(for me the ctd when when flying bombers in formation) and the fps upgrades are still to come it would seem, patience is required for any new cfs in the begining after all if this was RoF we would have another 6 months before the ctd's would be fixed if you compare the timelines(to be fair)...

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oh! and Bongodrums

What I spend my money on is my business......assman.

If they can get BoB to the level it needs to be at then I dont have a fear of buying BoM, that said, if they were to release BoM tomorrow I wouldnt buy it.

BoM is supposed to use the same engine that BoB is currently using, so here is your demo, base your buying decision on where BoB ends up at the time of release of BoM, simple as that.

I wouldn't buy BOM tomorrow on the basis theres just no 'community support', too many people working too hard to try and kill this series off.

BoM should wait a long long time to be release... ;) Bom should be just a concept...
priority to CLOD, nobody buy the second party without the first...
and the first party is not finish... and make several years to be finish

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 421075)

yeah sure. Now go here and read the minimum and recommended specs again :rolleyes:

It's deceiving to say the least, don't you think? If I go to the Ubisoft website and browse through the games, it takes me to the official page, which just like the current status of the sim, is a farce.

But hey, we're sitting here patiently, we have for more than a year now..