No. The notion of time is a human "creation" and so it is susceptible to inaccuracy and illusion created by imperfect calculation or by using celestial bodies to measure it. Yes I do know of ancient civilisations using planetsetc to measure time.

Once you work out that the sun and moon are not synchronised it may become clear for you.

Poll please.

yes so you admitt is right if its a human creation doesnt really exist

an illusion

You are getting off your subject.

Poll please.

well ponder this

phileas fog lives in this planet with a counterotating sun and moon

after his travel around the wolrd he counts 79 suns and 81 moons

dont you agree then he could use a combination of sun-moon dial he could easily obtain longitude which is interesting for navigation?

how?

from greenwhich time difference will be always zero, both sun and moon take same time to make a revolution in the sky

but for phileas fog who travelled around the world he will count a 2 days difference between sun time and moon time

so the rest is easy

360º 2 days
90º 12 hour
30º 4 hour
15º 2 hour

so whats wrong with this?

why this isnt in books?

answer right any of this and youll have your poll

but i bet for sure like when the time i had no money and i bet one euro i could drink a beer of one swallow

Thanks for pulling us back to reality with the Monty Python laughter conspiracy, Katana! :D

Dear Raaaid:

I was suspecting, but after reading this genuine argument, now I am sure: your account is being used at least by two others.

One of them have posted that the earth is flat, and the other has proved it has radius of 600 km. You should delete your account right now :grin:

Please don't take it too seriously. i know you won't ;)

Do remember there are 23 hours 56 minutes and 4.09 seconds in a sidereal day ... not 24 hours.

I want all those stolen minutes back !

well i solved the paradox if instead you had you would have had your poll but sorry it wasnt bs:

i finally figure out how a primitive folk could have obtained longitude with the lunar distance method

the problem is that i can not transmit the sun and moon movement to the same dial when i travel changing longitude and of course it gave to the full moon seen by the traveller and at the same time new moon seen from greenwhich paradox

the reason for this paradox if that if i use the same dial for both sun and moon time im assuming they have a fixed proportion and this is not the case whn im travelling east in whcih their proportion appears to vary to me while travelling

so the key is to keep sun time in a normal dial

and keep moon time in a mirror dial like this:

http://interiordesignhouses.com/wp-c...ror-Clock1.jpg

so then when you travel east you keep both moon and sun time in each dial

if the moon its at six o clock in the mirror dial and the sun at 12 o clock in the normal dial but you see an angle between the sun and the moon of 0º or 0 hour it means you have changed 90º of longitude

well can i claim the prize by the royal navy now