The sidewinder 2 was a USB stick so it might work for the PS3. Not much use to Crash on the xbox though.

Oh I'm fairly certain it doesn't work with the Xbox.

Its such a shame MS stopped making their sidewinders. They were top quality. MS would make a lot of people very happy indeed if they relaunched the forcefeedback Sidewinder for both xbox and Windows.

I'm a little surprised they haven't, but flight simulators have become a serious niche product. What once probably held a large part of the gaming market share is a shadow of what it once was thanks to increased consumers (a good thing) and the Call of Duty-ification of everything under the sun (a bad thing).

No one is interested in open-ended simulators and flight sticks just don't sell when everything can be done with a gamepad.

Look at what's new from Madcats/Saitek, a new AV8R...

http://damageincthegame.com/wp-conte.../XBOXstick.png

Ah ha! At least one company has its eyes open to the market. Even notice the US Navy theme which no doubt is to match the Pacfic theme of BoS and Damage Inc.

Interesting layout with those switches on the bottom. Not sure what buttons/assignments would work as toggles outside of flaps and gear, but those were assigned to normal buttons in BoP.

I guess that's fairly consistent with the other AV8R sticks, but I've grown comfortable with my FLY 9. The dead zone doesn't bother me as much any more in BoP, but it's a nightmare in Ace Combat 6.

I use the older av8r and I really hate the deadzone in BoP (xbox). Sure hope they got it fixed in Birds of Steel.

Waiting less and less patiently...:-P

New edition HORI HOTAS coming soon for Xbox 360 and PS3...

http://www.hori.jp/us/Products/XBOX3...e/topimage.jpg

http://www.hori.jp/us/Products/PS3/p...topimage01.jpg

Now THATS what I'm talking about! Release that at a realistic price and i'm buying.