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Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 354945)

The brakes work extremely well and the simulation has even accomodated for:
- Brakes on an axis (progressive)
- Differential brakes (different brake pressure on the left or right wheel)

(a word of advice: when on the X or Y axis of a joystick, this means that when centered, the brakes are set at 50% (the middle of the joystick axis). Thus, to take off, you have to pull/push the joystick in order to have 0% brake pressure.

GRAthos,

Since CloD allow (like WoP and another sim's) change the axis behavior with button, I assign brakes to Y axis + space bar.

Since axis zeroed in 50% (due stick springs) I set 50% of deadzone to avoid start or land plane with 50% o braking.

Work OK in many planes, with proportional braking force when pull stick (with pressed space bar), but not in Spit, in this s always 0 or 100%. What is missing?

Sokol1

Hey, that is a great idea Sokol.

I will keep it for the day it is needed!
(I solved my axes needs having one SW2FFB, one X45 and two throttle quadrants)

~S~

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Originally Posted by Sokol1 (Post 355264)

Work OK in many planes, with proportional braking force when pull stick (with pressed space bar), but not in Spit, in this s always 0 or 100%. What is missing?

Spit brakes are on / off only, you brake by applying rudder to either side.

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Originally Posted by Robo. (Post 355619)

Spit brakes are on / off only, you brake by applying rudder to either side.

In CloD -at moment - yes, ON/OFF (0 or 100%) only.

In RL are a proportional pneumatic system controlled by bicycle type lever (1) in control column. Differential brake (right or left wheel only) are controlled by valve (2) linked (3) to rudder bar:

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3227/spitdrw011.jpg

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The first time I had the opportunity to fly a British aircraft with this hand operated air brake system I was skeptical about it being very effective compared to hydraulic toe brakes. Within a very few minutes I was completely won over. It is far easier to manage, particularly on run up when one has to really stand on most American fighter rudder pedals. The source of high-pressure air is controlled by the brake lever on the spade control grip, or stick. The rudder pedals modulate the distribution of pressure to the left and right main wheel brakes. If the pedals are even, equal braking is applied to both sides; as one rudder pedal is applied then more brake pressure is fed to that side. Strength of application is delivered by the hand lever on the grip. The major benefit to all this is having one's feet and legs almost completely relaxed most of the time.

http://www.airspacemag.com/history-o...-Spitfire.html

How the system correctly work in A2A Spitfire (2:14):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsgEi...ailpage#t=134s

Even in old IL-2 Spitfire brake work as describe (real IL-2 use the same system).

I think that in CloD this system are broken or not implemented, since you get only "parking brakes" - in both, or right/left wheel (differential). No proportional brake.

Same for Hurricane.

Sokol1